Live-Action ‘Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs’

[LittleBuford]

I assume the characters chosen in Snow White were dwarves because they are short and stocky and work fit the job.

The animated dwarfs were also portrayed as little men. Unfortunately, the conflation is very well established and not just a matter of casting.

 

[Chi84]

The animated dwarfs were also portrayed as little men. Unfortunately, the conflation is very well established and not just a matter of casting.

I meant in the original fairytale. Wasn’t clear.

 

[Disney Analyst]

I'll let @Disney Analyst comment on his own post just so its clear on his intent.

But this is the issue with making assumptions based on incomplete and possibly incorrect information. If you had watched the trailer you'd know more on what the movie will actually feature.

Everything is based on speculation, people who claim to know something saying something.

The details I saw floating around were that the Prince was a thief / bandit of sorts, with his 7 bandit friends. An attempt to flesh him out a bit more, and give him a quirky similarity to snow? Some sort of parallels between the two groups?

Of course. Who knows. Maybe he’s just a prince now? Maybe he’s always been a prince, but a Robin Hood sentiment?

Maybe the 7 friends were replacements for the dwarfs. Maybe they never were meant to be.

Who knows. What we know is what we have been shown.

 

[LittleBuford]

Everything is based on speculation, people who claim to know something saying something.

The details I saw floating around were that the Prince was a thief / bandit of sorts, with his 7 bandit friends. An attempt to flesh him out a bit more, and give him a quirky similarity to snow? Some sort of parallels between the two groups?

Of course. Who knows. Maybe he’s just a prince now? Maybe he’s always been a prince, but a Robin Hood sentiment?

Maybe the 7 friends were replacements for the dwarfs. Maybe they never were meant to be.

Who knows. What we know is what we have been shown.

I can’t vouch for their authenticity, but there were (positive) reports of early screenings that stated that the dwarfs had been replaced with bandits. Assuming these reports weren’t fabricated, the idea that the dwarfs were a later addition isn’t entirely baseless.

 

[Disney Analyst]

I can’t vouch for their authenticity, but there were (positive) reports of early screenings that stated that the dwarfs had been replaced with bandits. Assuming these reports weren’t fabricated, the idea that the dwarfs were a later addition isn’t entirely baseless.

Right, I’m not here to say it’s not possible.

But I also have a hard time believing much of anything, unless it’s coming from a reputable source.

 

[Chi84]

I can’t vouch for their authenticity, but there were (positive) reports of early screenings that stated that the dwarfs had been replaced with bandits. Assuming these reports weren’t fabricated, the idea that the dwarfs were a later addition isn’t entirely baseless.

Positive reports from whom?

 

[Disney Irish]

I can’t vouch for their authenticity, but there were (positive) reports of early screenings that stated that the dwarfs had been replaced with bandits. Assuming these reports weren’t fabricated, the idea that the dwarfs were a later addition isn’t entirely baseless.

I'm curious where did you see that, because all the reports of early screenings that I've seen just comments on Rachel's, Gal's, and Andrew's performances, nothing on the content of the story or the dwarfs.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I'm curious where did you see that, because all the reports of early screenings that I've seen just comments on Rachel's, Gal's, and Andrew's performances, nothing on the content of the story or the dwarfs.

I did a google search and received a lot of search results, they all seem to be based of a disinsider article and a couple of tweets though so who knows if there’s any truth to any of it.

The articles mention positive reviews of the stars but also mention that many fans are upset by Zieglers comments and the films decision to replace the dwarfs, although it doesn’t say if the screening confirmed there aren’t dwarfs, just more speculation surrounding what has become a very controversial film.

 

[LittleBuford]

Positive reports from whom?

They were posted in this thread last year:

Snow white had test screening while ago.




And here i suspected would be the official poster of the movie.
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Don't knows. But here's the further information regarding the early screening of the film. That's included the budget as well.
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[Disney Irish]

I did a google search and received a lot of search results, they all seem to be based of a disinsider article and a couple of tweets though so who knows if there’s any truth to any of it.

The articles mention positive reviews of the stars but also mention that many fans are upset by Zieglers comments and the films decision to replace the dwarfs, although it doesn’t say if the screening confirmed there aren’t dwarfs, just more speculation surrounding what has become a very controversial film.

Exactly, I found the same from my search a bit earlier. So yep more speculation, so nothing to see here.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

They’re quoted in a post of mine from last year:

That’s funny, we had this discussion so long ago I had completely forgotten we’d already had this discussion.

Guess when a movies in production for half a century that’s bound to happen.

 

[LittleBuford]

That’s funny, we had this discussion so long ago I had completely forgotten we’d already had this discussion.

Guess when a movies in production for half a century that’s bound to happen.

I just changed my post so that it links directly to the relevant posts, bypassing our little exchange. I’d forgotten we’d had it too!

 

[Disney Irish]

They were posted in this thread last year:

What's funny in that same tweet thread is the following -



So this all but confirms even back when the "7 friends" photo came out that CGI for the dwarfs was being used.

 

[LittleBuford]

Right, I’m not here to say it’s not possible.

But I also have a hard time believing much of anything, unless it’s coming from a reputable source. There was an active anti-Disney campaign over the last few years, and anti “woke” campaigns, and this movie was a large target for them.

When there is so much money to be made, just by spreading whatever nonsense riles people up, I become suspect. Follow the money. What did these people have to gain? Who is the audience?

The report I was thinking of (and which I just provided a link to) is really positive; it doesn’t read like a hit piece or something designed to rile people up, though anything is possible I suppose.

 

[LittleBuford]

What's funny in that same tweet is the following -



So this all but confirms even back when the "7 friends" photo came out that CGI was being used.

I was thinking more of the second post I shared (with all the screenshots). That goes so far as to praise the bandits’ face-acting.

 

[Disney Irish]

I was thinking more of the second post I shared (with all the screenshots). That goes so far as to praise the bandits’ face-acting.

Except even the twitter account on the early screening stated, the VFX was not completed at the time of the screening, so that second post shows how incomplete the information being posted was. But that its confirmed that there would be dwarfs and they would be CGI, based on the early screening.

So again this is all assumptions based on bad and incomplete information.

 

[donaldtoo]

I haven’t really been keeping up with this thread, but when the original animated film was in production, it was referred to as “Disney’s Folly”, and we all know how that turned out.
This one seems have had many of its own issues during production.
Obviously, we won’t know for sure until it’s released, but I’m wondering if there may be a general consensus out there regarding the success, or not, of this film…?

 

[Chi84]

I was thinking more of the second post I shared (with all the screenshots). That goes so far as to praise the bandits’ face-acting.

From what I’m seeing they are the original dwarves with a different job (bandits) and that’s why they’re hiding from the queen.

I doubt they’ll be called dwarves.

 

[Tha Realest]

This comment has been driving me nuts. The original is not 'remarkable short'. It was the FIRST FULL LENGTH ANIMATED MOVIE EVER when it was released. No one thought you could make an animated movie that long before. The world had never seen ANYTHING like it before and it changed movies FOREVER. Is it short by 2024 standards? Duh! But back when it was released it was a remarkable achievement to make something that long.
Rant over.

This is a great point. It’s a bit of recency bias to complain the film was short. For reference, few modern animated films are that much longer than Snow White’s runtime, and falls well within the mean of WDAS output over the decades:

 

[Chi84]

This is a great point. It’s a bit of recency bias to complain the film was short. For reference, few modern animated films are that much longer than Snow White’s runtime, and falls well within the mean of WDAS output over the decades:

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There is length and there is length. What I’m saying is a modern audience would not sit through 80 minutes with so little plot or action.

That’s probably more an indictment of the attention spans of current audiences than the original film, but having recently watched the original I’m confident in my opinion.