Live-Action ‘Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs’

[Disney Irish]

We have no way of knowing if the actor in that photo is meant to be Klebba's stand-in or relates to another character.

In any case, I've never drawn too many conclusions from the leaked production photos. They aren't the main basis of my assumption that the film was not going to feature the Seven Dwarfs in their traditional form.

I agree we have no way of knowing, which was my whole point to begin with.

Maybe one day we'll learns if the "magical creatures" were originally intended to be more like "Robin's Merry Men" or were meant to be the CG depictions we now see.

 

[Tha Realest]

Exactly. This notion that it's just some nerd rage influencers is ridiculous. You don't lose as bad as they have unless you have pushed away a large portion of your fan base.

They’re either a small, insular, vocal minority, or they’re capable of taking down the theatrical slate of the biggest studio the world’s ever seen.

Pick one.

 

[Brer Panther]

In regards to the people involved in the remake expressing distain for the original... honestly, it's nothing new. I recall the folks behind Aladdin and Beauty and the Beast complaining about the originals as well (specifically, claiming that Belle and Jasmine weren't strong enough female characters).

 

[LittleBuford]

In regards to the people involved in the remake expressing distain for the original... honestly, it's nothing new. I recall the folks behind Aladdin and Beauty and the Beast complaining about the originals as well (specifically, claiming that Belle and Jasmine weren't strong enough female characters).

It’s not disdain.

 

[erasure fan1]

No where in that quote does it say those are indeed the "seven magical creatures", it was assumed. It also states there are stand-ins for some talent, that is not to indicate that all other of those actors are indeed in the film and its only Zegler and Burnap that were the only stand-ins.

I guess I'm confused as to why you think they didn't goof this whole thing up. If you take the quote, directly from Disney, they say some talent. And we know that snow and Burnaps character are for sure stand ins. The rest it says just "some" meaning there are real actors for the rest. And conveniently of which there are are seven. In a snow white and the SEVEN dwarfs remake. Then you point to the article saying just zegler and Burnap so those could be any characters, we don't know. Then you say one is snows childhood friend.

So again, why wouldn't if they weren't supposed to be the dwarfs, didn't they just say that when they had the chance? You keep saying everyone is assuming, but when it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. How hard would it have been for Disney to say something like,
"the photo that leaked was not an image of snow white or the seven dwarfs that will be in the film. It's from the production but uses stand ins for Zegler and Burnap and some other actors that do not represent the dwarfs that will be in our film."
All it would have taken was a small statement to clear this entire mess up. But they made a conscious decision to not correct what you are saying is assumed information. I'm sorry, I know you want to defend Disney and this film, but no matter what the truth really is, it was a mistake to not clarify it in my book. And for that they might have killed any chance this film had to be successful.

 

[MisterPenguin]

TMZ is on it, and isn't buying the "delayed due to the strike" bull.

Rachel Zegler's 'Snow White' Reboot Delayed, CGI Dwarves Swapped In

Disney appears to be doing a 180 on its approach to the live-action 'Snow White' reboot ... evidenced in their first official look of the film.

www.tmz.com

TMZ opts to believe in the more dramatic storyline? Will wonders never cease?!

 

[Disney Irish]

I guess I'm confused as to why you think they didn't goof this whole thing up. If you take the quote, directly from Disney, they say some talent. And we know that snow and Burnaps character are for sure stand ins. The rest it says just "some" meaning there are real actors for the rest. And conveniently of which there are are seven. In a snow white and the SEVEN dwarfs remake. Then you point to the article saying just zegler and Burnap so those could be any characters, we don't know. Then you say one is snows childhood friend.

So again, why wouldn't if they weren't supposed to be the dwarfs, didn't they just say that when they had the chance? You keep saying everyone is assuming, but when it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. How hard would it have been for Disney to say something like,
"the photo that leaked was not an image of snow white or the seven dwarfs that will be in the film. It's from the production but uses stand ins for Zegler and Burnap and some other actors that do not represent the dwarfs that will be in our film."
All it would have taken was a small statement to clear this entire mess up. But they made a conscious decision to not correct what you are saying is assumed information. I'm sorry, I know you want to defend Disney and this film, but no matter what the truth really is, it was a mistake to not clarify it in my book. And for that they might have killed any chance this film had to be successful.

I appreciate your opinion but just disagree with it. And I've already explained why, but let me break it down again. There was never a confirmation that anyone in that photo was one of the "magical creatures". The only thing they confirmed was that it was a leaked set photo with some stand-ins. No indication of where or of whom the photo was of, just that it had some stand-ins including of Zegler and Burnap. And since we know that the actor playing Grumpy, who would be one of the "magical creatures" doesn't appear to be in that photo, and that the black actress (the talent) is playing a character named Maple, ie not one of the "magical creatures", leaving only 5 others left, its not hard to see now that its more than possible its not a photo of the "magical creatures" at all. But rather Snow, the Prince, Maple, and 5 other people who I would guess to be villagers maybe going apple picking or something. Hopefully we'll find out for sure when the movie comes out.

Yes maybe Disney should have just come out and said something like you posted. But as we know Studios don't just come right out and say what the public thinks they should in these type of situations, just not what publicists do. But the fact that they didn't doesn't make it a "screw up" in my opinion, obviously you feel differently. I hope you can appreciate my opinion, as I have done yours, even if you disagree with it.

 

[_caleb]

And just like that, this thread becomes Twitter

 

[Hakunamatata]

And just like that, this thread becomes Twitter

You should have seen the politics subforum back in the day.

 

[Disney Irish]

And just like that, this thread becomes Twitter

This isn't new, this thread became X (Twitter) the moment that leaked set photo was released.

 

[networkpro]

They were either touched twice or are just keeping their original version. Funny how sometimes Disney just does Disney and everyone ties themselves in knots over it.

Frankly, I'm applauding whatever group of people are actually listening to what some of the customers are saying and attempting to improve the product before they attempt to sell it.

 

[Chi84]

Frankly, I'm applauding whatever group of people are actually listening to what some of the customers are saying and attempting to improve the product before they attempt to sell it.

How do you know it was improved? Disney said it was making a live-action Snow White, never said anything about dwarfs except that it would consult with members of the dwarfism community to ensure sensitivity, then released the very first photo showing our beloved 7 characters complete with original names. From screening reviews it seems they are now like a band of merry men rather than diamond miners. That may have been their “new approach” after Peter Dinklage weighed in.

Anything else is speculation derived from various internet sites - with a great deal of extrapolation and interpretation.

There’s no harm in doing that sort of thing when you have no official information, but it’s amusing to me that people think Disney intended to make one type of movie, then pandered to one group and changed it, then pandered to a second group and changed it again.

I think they made the movie they originally intended, being particularly sensitive to how they are representing the dwarfs. At this point in time, there’s no credible evidence otherwise.

 

[networkpro]

How do you know it was improved? Disney said it was making a live-action Snow White, never said anything about dwarfs except that it would consult with members of the dwarfism community to ensure sensitivity, then released the very first photo showing our beloved 7 characters complete with original names. From screening reviews it seems they are now like a band of merry men rather than diamond miners. That may have been their “new approach” after Peter Dinklage weighed in.

Anything else is speculation derived from various internet sites - with a great deal of extrapolation and interpretation.

There’s no harm in doing that sort of thing when you have no official information, but it’s amusing to me that people think Disney intended to make one type of movie, then pandered to one group and changed it, then pandered to a second group and changed it again.

I think they made the movie they originally intended, being particularly sensitive to how they are representing the dwarfs. At this point in time, there’s no credible evidence otherwise.

I dont. I do know that the information coming from Disney and its mouthpieces about this product has changed.

 

[Chi84]

I dont. I do know that the information coming from Disney and its mouthpieces about this product has changed.

It must be information that hasn’t been shared here. That’s entirely possible.

 

[doctornick]

Frankly, I'm applauding whatever group of people are actually listening to what some of the customers are saying and attempting to improve the product before they attempt to sell it.

This is my take. I’m actually extremely happy that Disney seems willing to at listen to their actual core fan base and roll back on at least some of the silly changes for the film. The entire idea of making a Snow White film but changing the fundamental characteristics of the original popular film was just stupid. You want to make a girl boss film with “magical creatures”? Great, go and do that - but don’t make it Snow White, just come up with a new premise.

If you are going to make a money grab live action remake, just stay true to the original. I’m not saying you can’t make some smaller updates, but don’t fundamentally change the film.

This new photo gives me hope that Disney is pivoting back to aiming for what audiences want as opposed to just making a film to advance principles regardless of whether it’s entertaining

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I just watched a great documentary on the making of National Lampoons Vacation, the original to Walley World, and it was interesting that after the film was finished it fell flat in test screenings so they completely changed and reshot the entire ending.

(Before the reshoot they kidnapped Roy Walley in his home, after the reshoot they kidnapped John Candy in the theme park and went on the rides, which is the payoff for the whole trip.)

I’m starting to suspect that making major changes after the film is more or less complete as a result of test screenings isn’t as uncommon as we may believe.

Maybe someday we’ll get a making of Snow White and know what actually happened.

 

[Chi84]

This is my take. I’m actually extremely happy that Disney seems willing to at listen to their actual core fan base and roll back on at least some of the silly changes for the film. The entire idea of making a Snow White film but changing the fundamental characteristics of the original popular film was just stupid. You want to make a girl boss film with “magical creatures”? Great, go and do that - but don’t make it Snow White, just come up with a new premise.

If you are going to make a money grab live action remake, just stay true to the original. I’m not saying you can’t make some smaller updates, but don’t fundamentally change the film.

This new photo gives me hope that Disney is pivoting back to aiming for what audiences want as opposed to just making a film to advance principles regardless of whether it’s entertaining

I don’t think they ever planned not to have dwarfs. But the film is going to be very different from the original. It has to be. There isn’t enough material in the original to support a full length live-action feature film.

 

[LittleBuford]

This is my take. I’m actually extremely happy that Disney seems willing to at listen to their actual core fan base and roll back on at least some of the silly changes for the film.

I don't think it's for you, or any of us, to decide who constitutes Disney's "actual core fan base". I consider myself a Pixie Duster through and through, and I don't share your views on this matter at all.

 

[Chi84]

I don't think it's for you, or any of us, to decide who constitutes Disney's "actual core fan base". I consider myself a Pixie Duster through and through, and I don't share your views on this matter at all.

If Disney had a homogeneous core fan base things would be so much easier for them.

 

[LittleBuford]

Again you’re free to agree or disagree with her sentiment. But she didn’t merely call it a product of 1937, and her comments were objectively critical of the source material. And your post was a continuation of a thread which started with questioning why someone like Zegler was involved if she was “expressing disdain.”

I don’t view her comments as disdainful or even that critical. I find Pocahontas quite problematic by today’s standards and could list several things about it I take issue with, but I don’t consider myself critical of the film, which is one I still watch and enjoy.