Live-Action ‘Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs’

[doctornick]

You have seen as much of the film as the rest of us. We’re all in equal stead in terms of forming initial impressions.

Furthermore, the silly refrain on here of "you need to see the film to comment on it" is odd when the discussion revolves around box office and the willingness of people to go any watch the film. Basically the entire point is "does what we know about this film inspire me [or other people in general] to want to spend money and time to see the film?"

Whether a person sees the film, heck whether the film is even objectively good, is irrelevant to the point that potential audience members are being turned off or not interested in the film. And that's the problem here. Even if the film is a masterpiece, will anyone go to see it?

 

[BuddyThomas]

You have seen as much of the film as the rest of us. We’re all in equal stead in terms of forming initial impressions.

And I don’t have an opinion because I do not base an opinion on a freaking photo.

 

[networkpro]

Principle photography was completed in July 2022. So now the producers have to combat both trying to make a coherent production as well as a PR firefight caused by an actress that wasn't hired for her media savvy.

Most audience members just want to be entertained, they don't care about agendas. When any associated agendas media coverage exceeds the actual productions' releases , you get disaffection.

Disney has been pretty much mum about this film other than a few casting and release dates, so the other volume of "news" is winning the pr battle.

 

[BuddyThomas]

Principle photography was completed in July 2022. So now the producers have to combat both trying to make a coherent production as well as a PR firefight caused by an actress that wasn't hired for her media savvy.

Most audience members just want to be entertained, they don't care about agendas. When any associated agendas media coverage exceeds the actual productions' releases , you get disaffection.

Disney has been pretty much mum about this film other than a few casting and release dates, so the other volume of "news" is winning the pr battle.

The Hunger Games film comes out first. It will be a blockbuster. You can hate on her all you want but she is shaping up to be a major star.

 

[LittleBuford]

You have seen as much of the film as the rest of us. We’re all in equal stead in terms of forming initial impressions.

The problem is that some people have already formed final impressions. It’s impossible to say at this stage whether it’s going to be a good or bad film.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

I disagree. The risk is worth taking. I’m not optimistic it’ll pay off, but I still think it’s worth a shot. There is some real talent involved in this film.

I agree with you on the talent. I have no ill will towards Zegler and think she is very talented, I’m excited to see her in the new Hunger Games film. I just don’t think she was a smart choice for this role, or at least should’ve received some media training before they put her out there.

 

[Chi84]

Furthermore, the silly refrain on here of "you need to see the film to comment on it" is silly when the discussion revolves around box office and the willingness of people to go any watch the film. Basically the entire point is "does what we know about this film inspire me [or other people in general] to want to spend money and time to see the film".

Whether a person sees the film, heck whether the film is even objectively good, is irrelevant to the point that potential audience members are being turned off or not interested in the film. And that's the problem here. Even if the film is a masterpiece, will anyone go to see it?

They may if they haven’t already closed their minds. People miss so many good things by pre-judging. Why not wait to see what the film is about before deciding whether or not to see it?

 

[Chi84]

at the least they should just push this straight to Disney+ so it could be forgotten

I’m confused as to how you can say this about the film when so little is known about it. If Disney makes a good movie all this “controversy” will be forgotten. I’m looking forward to seeing what they’re going to do with the material.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Ok, ok. I've played the movie in its entirety in my mind... and it sucked. Especially the part where they resurrected Thanos.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

The Hunger Games film comes out first. It will be a blockbuster.

Is that speculation? Certainly it can't be an intelligent comment because one does need to see a film first to do that, or so I've been told.

 

[MarvelCharacterNerd]

Ok, ok. I've played the movie in its entirety in my mind... and it sucked. Especially the part where they resurrected Thanos.

Aww, that was one of my favorite parts! But best was when Loki stabbed him with his scepter and stole both the princess and her non-royal boyfriend away to live happily ever after!

Oops! Spoilers!

 

[KeithVH]

**Back in my day** (growing up in the 60s and 70s), when we only had 6 TV channels, just about every previously made TV show and movie were on constant rerun on the secondary channels. So, there was a lot of "before my time" TV and movies being consumed. Thus, I was fully aware of my parents' and grandparents' cultural milieu.

I can't imagine with how much content has been made since and is being churned out currently in a tsunami of content how any youth today would know about what were the cultural touchstones of previous eras except for those few movie or TV shows that have remained popular (like Star Wars, which is now 40 years old).

This. +1 gazillion

 

[BuddyThomas]

Is that speculation? Certainly it can't be an intelligent comment because one does need to see a film first to do that, or so I've been told.

How have the other films and books done????

 

[Prince-1]

Ok, ok. I've played the movie in its entirety in my mind... and it sucked. Especially the part where they resurrected Thanos.

Thanks for ruining the movie.

 

[doctornick]

The Hunger Games film comes out first. It will be a blockbuster. You can hate on her all you want but she is shaping up to be a major star.

Will it? Honest question as I am not sure how it is projected to do or how the fanbase is viewing it. Obviously, the original series did very well but sometimes prequels without the main cast don't perform as well - Harry Potter vs Fantastic Beasts being an obvious example - and I wasn't sure if a Hunger Games without Katniss is a surefire hit.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

Will it? Honest question as I am not sure how it is projected to do or how the fanbase is viewing it. Obviously, the original series did very well but sometimes prequels without the main cast don't perform as well - Harry Potter vs Fantastic Beasts being an obvious example - and I wasn't sure if a Hunger Games without Katniss is a surefire hit.

I think it will be a hit. The book was very good, and the main character was the main antagonist of the originals. Unlike Fantastic Beasts which was just poorly executed either way

 

[doctornick]

They may if they haven’t already closed their minds. People miss so many good things by pre-judging. Why not wait to see what the film is about before deciding whether or not to see it?

But again, why should the expectation be that people "need to" see a film? A potential viewer is under no obligation to buy the product (i.e. a movie ticket). A potential viewer sees the information available and decides whether it is worth their time and money to buy the product.

It is up to Disney (or whatever studio is appropriate for a specific film) to sell their movie to the audience and inspire them to see it. We'll see what happens once the actual direct marketing for the films starts up, but I do not think Disney has done a good job with PR for the film so far which lies on them as the studio trying to sell tickets.

If people have "closed their minds" or "pre-judged", it is Disney that needs to change that sentiment.

 

[Chi84]

But again, why should the expectation be that people "need to" see a film? A potential viewer is under no obligation to buy the product (i.e. a movie ticket). A potential viewer sees the information available and decides whether it is worth their time and money to buy the product.

It is up to Disney (or whatever studio is appropriate for a specific film) to sell their movie to the audience and inspire them to see it. We'll see what happens once the actual direct marketing for the films starts up, but I do not think Disney has done a good job with PR for the film so far which lies on them as the studio trying to sell tickets.

If people have "closed their minds" or "pre-judged", it is Disney that needs to change that sentiment.

The problem I’m seeing is that some people aren’t waiting to see what happens when the direct marketing of the film starts up. They’re concluding the film is going to fail and suggesting reshooting it or sending it direct to Disney+ before any marketing has even begun. What sense does that make?

 

[doctornick]

The problem I’m seeing is that some people aren’t waiting to see what happens when the direct marketing of the film starts up. They’re concluding the film is going to fail and suggesting reshooting it or sending it direct to Disney+ before any marketing has even begun. What sense does that make?

Because this is a discussion and board and it involves people... discussing things. Sure, we could just not talk about the film at all until more information comes out, but people are on this specific board subdivision because they like to discuss the aspects of Disney films/television/streaming. This is an upcoming film, so people are discussing it and what their impressions and thoughts about it are. It's perfectly valid to have an opinion or impression based on the information currently out there.

When the advertising campaign starts up, if Disney is able to "wow" people and change the mindset then great for Disney! That would surely impact the tone of the discussion here as more information becomes available. but for now, we got what we got and some people enjoy talking about their predictions and anticipated vibe for the film. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[Tha Realest]

The problem I’m seeing is that some people aren’t waiting to see what happens when the direct marketing of the film starts up. They’re concluding the film is going to fail and suggesting reshooting it or sending it direct to Disney+ before any marketing has even begun. What sense does that make?

Prospective customers are free to form opinions about a project based on what they see and hear. Disney is free to do what it wants with its iteration of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, even if that means stripping the film of a potential love story and doing away with the dwarfs. That’s fine. They can even choose to distance themselves from the source material even further. Their prerogative. We as customers are free to make initial judgments based on those choices.

I love the Batman character. If it came out that WBD, as part of its reimagining, had Bruce Wayne as a man who developed superpowers and accidentally killed his own parents, and now carries a gun - hey, it’s their choice. Until convinced otherwise, I likely would not choose to see such a film.