I think to make this point you have to match a specific person to a specific criticism, though, and show where that specific person was hypocritical. Otherwise it gets into treating people as extremely vague blocs, and assuming someone like TP2000 is somehow obligated to agree with Ben Shapiro or else be a hypocrite. If TP2000 made a hypocritical comment? Ok. If Ben Shapiro made a comment though - that only reflects Ben Shapiro.
But Barbie isn't a Disney movie. I care about the WDC and this is a Disney message board; I couldn't care less about Mattel (or Hasbro) and this isn't a Mattel message board.
The difference is that once Barbie became a box office success the haters realized that it would be more difficult to bash a movie everyone loves. If Barbie had flopped, even if it was the exact same movie, the haters would be branding it a woke failure.
Eh. Some people still bashed it even when it became a success.
While there may have been some woke messaging in Barbie, Barbie was so good and fun that folks overlooked the any messaging and just had fun.
This was covered in some detail in a series of older exchanges. I’m not sure it’s wise to rehash the whole matter, but most of the posts are still there if you wish to search for them. The reason I responded to @TP2000 is not because he needed an answer—he knew very well what @BuddyThomas was getting at, having been at the centre of the exchanges I just mentioned—but because the performance of bafflement was getting tiresome.
I’m not saying people should care or be posting about Barbie here; I’m saying the comments that have been posted—and there are many—reveal a double standard in how people perceive certain themes and approaches.
This is an argument about quality, though. My post was referring to the ideological explanation that’s been offered for Disney’s recent failures and disappointments.
What didn’t you like about it?
I only half agree. Even before it came out, Barbie was being approached with far more openmindedness. To be clear, I’m not saying I want those who (preemptively) decry “wokeness” in Disney to do the same with other studios. Far better would be for people to just assess every film on its own merits, without rushing to judgement or dismissing something based on a vague sense of its messaging. Barbie is proof that such an unbiased (or relatively unbiased) attitude is possible—and I won’t deny that it helps if the film itself is really good.
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Most of what you say is a matter of opinion, so even though I disagree with your assessment, I can’t really counter it other than with my own (equally subjective) opinions. I’m really surprised by your claim that it’s just a “take for take remake”, however. That to me seems just objectively wrong given that this version includes numerous differences from, and additions to, the original.
On the contrary, it gives me hope for the future of film when people can enjoy a well-made movie.
So what you're saying is if Disney made successful movies, problem solved. I agree.
Ok, not sure what the whole history is. Just saying that I think a lot of this stuff is very subjective, in terms of what content rubs a particular person the wrong way. If TP2000’s line in the sand is set at a place that seems arbitrary to me (for example, he’s ok with trans actors but not trans characters in children’s movies,) then I disagree, but I wouldn’t say it makes him a hypocrite.
Many (and perhaps most) of the complaints against Disney are coming from people who haven't even seen the films whose content they object to.
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