Live-Action ‘Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs’

[The Mom]

I know you’re half joking, but it’s not like she isn’t still being played by someone with a light complexion.

I am half joking. I grew up in New England, and I personally was surprised when some of my Portuguese friends considered themselves non-white. I guess I hadn't thought that they were "other" And was also surprised that many Italians felt the same way! Especially since their parents had been the "other."

To accurately portray Snow White you would probably have to find a better looking Tilda Swindon and dye her hair black. I am not saying that Tilda is in anyway ugly, just that she would probably not qualify as the "fairest of us all."

 

[LittleBuford]

I am not saying that Tilda is in anyway ugly, just that she would probably not qualify as the "fairest of us all."

Let’s face it, nor would the original Snow White! Her stepmother was much more attractive.

 

[Chi84]

I always thought of the term Snow White as referring to purity, which was then reflected in her outward appearance - such as pure as the driven snow. These movies were made decades ago; I don't think there's anything wrong with keeping the name and the central concept and yet changing certain aspects to meet modern sensibilities. Others don't want anything changed and that's fine; it's what discussion is all about.

 

[LittleBuford]

I mean it’s Disney’s IP and they’re free to strip mine it as they see fit. That’s their choice and prerogative.

But we, the potential viewing audience, also have our own choice and agency to choose to (or choose not to) see this movie if we perceive that the end product (based on these changes) is worth our money and time.

Again, Disney seems to be playing at the tremendous brand identity of these films and generations of goodwill in choosing to offer a “live action” remake. It’s free to change it up as they see fit. If those changes for whatever reason diminish the box office, that’s ultimately on them.

Since someone earlier accused me of not tolerating opinions different from mine, I wanted to note that I agree with you. I have no problem with people choosing not to see films that don’t appeal to them, or criticising films they have seen and dislike. The only thing that irks me is when people declare a film terrible without having watched a frame of it, or even before it’s come out.

 

[LittleBuford]

And I don't get a salary! Just a nice thank-you gift at Christmas. This isn't a forum where "the staff" gets any profit - just enough to keep things up and running but not enough to turn it into a business. It's a hobby. A fun place (or should be) for people to discuss all things Disney, and many other mutual interests. When it isn't fun anymore I, and perhaps even @wdwmagic , will just walk away. Many posters seem to forget that.

I missed this earlier. Thank you, truly.

 

[Disstevefan1]

And I don't get a salary! Just a nice thank-you gift at Christmas. This isn't a forum where "the staff" gets any profit - just enough to keep things up and running but not enough to turn it into a business. It's a hobby. A fun place (or should be) for people to discuss all things Disney, and many other mutual interests. When it isn't fun anymore I, and perhaps even @wdwmagic , will just walk away. Many posters seem to forget that.

Mom deserves a trophy

 

[Tha Realest]

Since someone earlier accused me of not tolerating opinions different from mine, I wanted to note that I agree with you. I have no problem with people choosing not to see films that don’t appeal to them, or criticising films they have seen and dislike. The only thing that irks me is when people declare a film terrible without having watched a frame of it, or even before it’s come out.

I appreciate this. I don’t think it makes sense to gatekeep against anyone having any opinions whatsoever on a movie they’ve not yet seen. After all, marketing and promotions are ways studios choose to portray and preview a film. If a film comes off as unappealing or a must-see, those things influence how it will be viewed.

Personally, I don’t need to watch each film in the SAW or Human Centipede series to know I’ll be repulsed by the subject matter. I also watched enough reality TV in its infancy to know I don’t need to watched each and every season of the Kardashian Reality Universe to weigh in on its pros and cons. And, at this point, I’ve seen enough superhero films and live action remakes to formulate enough of an opinion as to how entertaining I’m likely to find those films after seeing numerous previous iterations.

But, calling it terrible without having seen it? I agree - largely premature and faulty judgment.

 

[Basil of Baker Street]

I always thought of the term Snow White as referring to purity, which was then reflected in her outward appearance - such as pure as the driven snow. These movies were made decades ago; I don't think there's anything wrong with keeping the name and the central concept and yet changing certain aspects to meet modern sensibilities. Others don't want anything changed and that's fine; it's what discussion is all about.

Which makes me wonder. How pure is driven snow? It looks pretty nasty to me.

 

[erasure fan1]

And, at this point, I’ve seen enough superhero films and live action remakes to formulate enough of an opinion as to how entertaining I’m likely to find those films after seeing numerous previous iterations.

Very true. It seems to get lost on some that it's not my job to go see a film, just because it's Disney. It's Disneys job to make me want to see the film. So while I can't say that mermaid is a terrible film if I haven't seen it. I can say that based on the marketing, and how sub par beast, lion king and Aladdin were, that mermaid is absolutely a film I think will be bad. And the same goes for snow white. Sure we've only seen a few images and we've got some comments from Zegler. But that is more than enough for a lot of people to say "hard pass, I'm out". Why? Because Disney has a pretty established track record on these remakes at this point. So for now, it's up to them to wow everyone and show us why the movie is worth our time.

 

[Ghost93]

There’s no reason to think that Zegler had any influence on the script or plot. Moreover, I’m struggling to understand how her misgivings about aspects of the 1937 film that won’t even feature in the remake would negatively shape her performance. It’s rather farfetched to assume that her lack of enthusiasm for the animated version will somehow come through in her portrayal of what is, in any case, a substantially different treatment of the titular character.

Whatever one's thoughts are on Zegler as a person, I am 100% confident that she will be excellent in the role of Snow White. Those doubting her talents should watch her as Maria in Steven Spielberg's version of West Side Story. She totally can embody the sweetness and innocence of Snow White, while also updating the character for modern sensibilities.

 

[Ghost93]

But Snow White and the Seven Dwarves is very specific in the written retelling of an older tale. "Skin as white as snow, hair as black as ebony, and lips as red as blood" .

I know Zegler is Latina, but she looks like Snow White. Her skin is not "white as snow," but she is light-skinned and in costume, she looks more like the original version of Snow White than Elle Fanning did as Aurora, Mia Wasikowska did as Alice or Lily James did as Cinderella.

 

[AdventureHasAName]

I always thought of the term Snow White as referring to purity, which was then reflected in her outward appearance - such as pure as the driven snow. These movies were made decades ago; I don't think there's anything wrong with keeping the name and the central concept and yet changing certain aspects to meet modern sensibilities. Others don't want anything changed and that's fine; it's what discussion is all about.

 

[Chi84]

I forgot the "rags cannot hide her gentle grace." What a poetic line. I hope they keep it.

 

[LittleBuford]

I forgot the "rags cannot hide her gentle grace." What a poetic line. I hope they keep it.

The dialogue is beautifully written and the animation stunning. The misuse of "thou" (it should be "you") bothers me, but George Lucas made the same mistake with Darth Vader.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

Son Of Original ‘Snow White’ Director Slams Live Action Disney Remake, Says Father And Walt Disney ‘Would Be Turning In Their Graves’

The son of the original “Snow White” director slammed the upcoming live action remake from Disney, saying it has the potential to “destroy” the film’s legacy. David Hand, 91, shares the same name as his father, who directed the original 1937 animated classic. His comments come just after lead...

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[Chi84]

Son Of Original ‘Snow White’ Director Slams Live Action Disney Remake, Says Father And Walt Disney ‘Would Be Turning In Their Graves’

The son of the original “Snow White” director slammed the upcoming live action remake from Disney, saying it has the potential to “destroy” the film’s legacy. David Hand, 91, shares the same name as his father, who directed the original 1937 animated classic. His comments come just after lead...

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Oh those 91-year-olds!

 

[MisterPenguin]

Son Of Original ‘Snow White’ Director Slams Live Action Disney Remake, Says Father And Walt Disney ‘Would Be Turning In Their Graves’

The son of the original “Snow White” director slammed the upcoming live action remake from Disney, saying it has the potential to “destroy” the film’s legacy. David Hand, 91, shares the same name as his father, who directed the original 1937 animated classic. His comments come just after lead...

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Spielberg and Lucas didn't like Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.

But I guess what's more important, is what their children think of it.

 

[Californian Elitist]

It's clear from her comments she doesn't respect the original film. The original film is what people love (for 80 years). She's gone out of her way to tell everyone that they are not making a film that those who love and respect the original will enjoy. She doesn't realize how stupid this is (both in concept of the remake, and in antagonizing the original's fans pre-release), but she is doing it nontheless.

It’s not very clear at all. She critiqued some of the characters and provided her own opinion. People do that all the time. It doesn’t mean they automatically dislike the film and don’t respect it. The introduction of my Master’s thesis includes an analysis and critique of Humbert Humbert and other parts from Nabokov’s Lolita. It’s my favorite book of all time and I have tremendous respect and appreciation for it, and I’ve critiqued it and provided analysis multiple times.

How exactly do you know that there won’t be people out there who will love and respect the upcoming movie?

 

[Screamface]

How exactly do you know that there won’t be people out there who will love and respect the upcoming movie?

When was the last time a Disney movie was loved and respected?

 

[Farerb]

When was the last time a Disney movie was loved and respected?

Moana - 2016.