Live-Action ‘Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs’

[Disstevefan1]

They pulled it from the parade. I can name at least five places around property it's still playing.

Interesting. Obviously, a mistake. They got to get on the ball and erase all reference to Splash.

 

[Ghost93]

Lots of kids who grew up watching BatB, Aladdin, TLK, now have young kids of their own. There is a built in audience for those films. Snow White doesn't have that.

You act like kids in the 90s didn't grow up with Snow White. Snow White sold 28 million VHS tapes in the 90s.

 

[mf1972]

It worked for BatB, Aladdin, and TLK. They each grossed over $1B at the box office.

The Jungle Book remake almost hit a billion, too. Cinderella, over half a billion.

All of these profited during their theatrical window (and went on to make even more money in the subsequent pay windows.)

TLM is closing in on half a billion, but its expensive budget makes that a disappointment in the theatrical window.

Of course, there were bombs and would-be bombs that were shuttled to D+.

But it's not crazy to try. TLM box office shows there's still an audience -- apart from you -- who will go. Although, it is possible that a significant part of the audience is now waiting for such movies to hit D+ instead of going to the theater. Much cheaper for them.

Disney just needs to reign in the budget.

totally agree. given their recent streak lately, they need to reign in the budgets for future projects. any idea what the budget is for this one?

 

[LittleBuford]

I just thought the leaked photos looked....eh and was just poking fun. I'm not one of the folks that goes ballistic over "woke" stuff. A lot of that made my eyes roll to the back of my head.

I think the pictures are fair game (though whether they really tell us much about the final film is another matter). What irks me is the frenzied and hyperbolic “They’re destroying everything Walt stood for!” rhetoric.

 

[Jedijax719]

The hobbits and dwarves in LOTR were normal people and they used SFX to give the illusion that they were smaller. Perhaps they are doing that now with this cast. The problem is, there was already an uproar about not using actual dwarves and not being fair to dwarf actors/actresses. In addition to that, like I said (I was actually being truthful), they are only being partially diverse. They have females and black actors, but if they are truly going to be diverse, what about Asian and Latino characters?

This time, if these are truly the "dwarves" they are being quite exclusive and divisive in their attempt to be inclusive.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

My attention now being drawn to the right of the image. The guy in the blue standing next to the only actual dwarf. I'm getting a sort of "Safety Dance" vibe.

 

[Smugpugmug]

I think the pictures are fair game (though whether they really tell us much about the final film is another matter). What irks me is the frenzied and hyperbolic “They’re destroying everything Walt stood for!” rhetoric.

Yeah, that's very eye-roll ish to me personally....

With the photos, even the more left leaning people I know are making fun of them. It's mostly the outfits more than anything. I said before that they give off theater kid vibes lol

 

[Phroobar]

Remember when we thought these Dwarfs where weird?

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

What irks me is the frenzied and hyperbolic “They’re destroying everything Walt stood for!” rhetoric.

Walt made movies for his era, in the 1950s the US was 88% non hispanic white, about 10% black, and 2% everything else… now it’s 58% white, 12% black, 19% Hispanic, 6% Asian, and 5% everything else… it makes sense to change the demographics of movies for modern audiences, I just wish they’d be creative and original in the process. The remakes are lazy and just swapping out the race and sex of some characters and calling it modern is even lazier. I hate what Disney’s doing, not because it’s destroying Walt’s legacy but because they have no creativity anymore, that’s true with the movies and the “everything needs to be an IP” parks.

 

[Phroobar]

Or Disney's failed "The 7Ds"

 

[Hawkeye_2018]

You act like kids in the 90s didn't grow up with Snow White. Snow White sold 28 million VHS tapes in the 90s.

Those films were phenomenon's that 90's kids witnessed in real time. Snow White was an old film you watched at your grandmas house

 

[Hawkeye_2018]

Walt made movies for his era, in the 1950s the US was 88% non hispanic white, about 10% black, and 2% everything else… now it’s 58% white, 12% black, 19% Hispanic, 6% Asian, and 5% everything else… it makes sense to change the demographics of movies for modern audiences, I just wish they’d be creative and original in the process. The remakes are lazy and just swapping out the race and sex of some characters and calling it modern is even lazier. I hate what Disney’s doing, not because it’s destroying Walt’s legacy but because they have no creativity anymore, that’s true with the movies and the “everything needs to be an IP” parks.

Agree. Either make it as faithful to the original as possible or go in a totally new and unique direction.

 

[Ghost93]

Those films were phenomenon's that 90's kids witnessed in real time. Snow White was an old film you watched at your grandmas house

Really? I was born in 93 and rewatched Snow White — and other old Disney movies like Bambi, Dumbo, Alice in Wonderland and Pinocchio — all the time at home when I was a child.

 

[LittleBuford]

Walt made movies for his era, in the 1950s the US was 88% non hispanic white, about 10% black, and 2% everything else… now it’s 58% white, 12% black, 19% Hispanic, 6% Asian, and 5% everything else… it makes sense to change the demographics of movies for modern audiences, I just wish they’d be creative and original in the process. The remakes are lazy and just swapping out the race and sex of some characters and calling it modern is even lazier. I hate what Disney’s doing, not because it’s destroying Walt’s legacy but because they have no creativity anymore, that’s true with the movies and the “everything needs to be an IP” parks.

Yours isn’t the kind of criticism I’m talking about, even if I don’t agree with everything you say.

For what it’s worth, this remake seems to be a much more extensive reimagining than simply swapping the race and gender of some of the characters. That doesn’t mean it’ll be any good, of course, but they could have taken a much easier and lazier route.

 

[MisterPenguin]

My attention now being drawn to the right of the image. The guy in the blue standing next to the only actual dwarf. I'm getting a sort of "Safety Dance" vibe.

Well you can watch the film if you want to, or you can leave your friends behind. 'Cause your friends don't watch and if they don't watch, well they're no friends of yours.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Drama!

 

[Smugpugmug]

Really? I was born in 93 and rewatched Snow White — and other old Disney movies like Bambi, Dumbo, Alice in Wonderland and Pinocchio — all the time at home when I was a child.

Same here and I was born in 97. Then again, I also watched those garbage direct to video sequel films too. If Snow White had a direct to video sequel, kid me probably would've watched the hell out of that.

 

[DisneyCane]

Exactly.

At this point 7dmt needs to be re-imagined for a modern audience.

Or....a creative person can come up with a whole new story and set of characters for a modern audience. I guess that would be too much to ask.

 

[Tha Realest]

Has dwarfism been a condition that many have used in a hurtful way over time, throughout history? Have some of those antiquated depictions of “dwarves” found themselves in Disney produced films in the early 20th century? Are those depictions now viewed as outdated, and not in keeping with the more inclusive, sensitive approach the company now uses?

If your answers to those questions are yes, and films like SOTS and other depictions in earlier Disney films are now viewed through a contemporary prism, then now sure how tenable it is they keep the references to the 7Ds in the parks and merchandise. The new film appears to have adopted the Dinklage view that the earlier depictions of the dwarves (which are clearly based on mythic stereotypes) is not something that belongs in a modern film.

 

[Ghost93]

Has dwarfism been a condition that many have used in a hurtful way over time, throughout history? Have some of those antiquated depictions of “dwarves” found themselves in Disney produced films in the early 20th century? Are those depictions now viewed as outdated, and not in keeping with the more inclusive, sensitive approach the company now uses?

If your answers to those questions are yes, and films like SOTS and other depictions in earlier Disney films are now viewed through a contemporary prism, then now sure how tenable it is they keep the references to the 7Ds in the parks and merchandise. The new film appears to have adopted the Dinklage view that the earlier depictions of the dwarves (which are clearly based on mythic stereotypes) is not something that belongs in a modern film.

Disney made the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train in 2014.