Did you miss the word "preferably"?
Bob also loves to milk 2 or 3 of the hit movies of his predecessor, along with Toy Story.
Did you miss the word "preferably"?
Apologies if I was a bit short. Theme parks have lots and lots of elements. If your criteria is “this appeared somewhere in the park at one point in time”, the theme could literally be anything and becomes a meaningless construct. I could go on and on about how Magic Kingdom has always contained lots of food and merch and so really we should turn the place into Disney Springs. Or a coaster park. Or a Renaissance Fair. Whatever. Lots of stuff has appeared in that park.“Animal Kingdom has always been the park about all animals — real and fictional, gritty and cartoon, and of past, present, and myth” doesn’t require all that hyperbole that nobody is actually trying to say
I thought the poster was waxing poetic about his or her love for the attraction based on nostalgia, but maybe I misread.The point went wildly over your head.
Yes. A for effort/execution, but an F for the assignment.Chester and Hester's actually was quite gritty/realistic -- while it was never a great fit for the park, it absolutely nailed the theme of an American roadside tourist trap.
*Sidebar* I had no idea Eisner was older than my parents.
Yes. A for effort/execution, but an F for the assignment.
Oh! So it *is* Hamlet!!Theaters are interesting as in themed entertainment they are often treated as a sort of play within a play.
Futurama. Willy Wonka parody episode.Sadly, I am too old to get this reference. Just seeing a turd in an aqua leisure shirt.
I recently went to a Fun Spot for the first time and I suddenly realised I was at Chester and Hester's.I don't think anyone wishes Chester & Hester's would stay -- I always hated it. But if you think it's not a well-themed representation of an American roadside tourist trap, then... well... not sure what to tell you.
I think there are two ways the Lion King flume could be designed to fit within Harambe. Both our outlandish and won't be done.So if we're touristing in Harambe, we can't have ventured into a corner of the Savannah where lions are in the middle of a (familiar) succession struggle? I don't see how bold changes to the film are necessary, even if you believe tourism is the theme of the park. These animals live in Africa, we're on vacay in Africa, we see them while on a boat...
Feels like people are desperate to find ways to define Animal Kingdom in a way that boxes out a Lion King retelling. But none of these definitions work without cherry picking parts of the park to define a pattern of convenience, or cherry picking elements of the film to ignore
For avoidance of doubt I love FOTL and I think it is the perfect treatment for the Lion King in DAK and a flume ride isn't required.Theaters are interesting as in themed entertainment they are often treated as a sort of play within a play. Their content is often considered to be detached for their surrounding. Big theater shows really became a thing with studio parks and their content does not remain the purview of the park designers.
Can you give some examples of where DAK is kawaii?But Camp Minnie Mickey is what we got, and countless other additions to the park have combined the kawaii with the gritty, the fictional with the real, into the park it is today.
This sort of meta narrative has been done but it’s a tool that allows pretty much anything to work.I think there are two ways the Lion King flume could be designed to fit within Harambe. Both our outlandish and won't be done.
1) The village of Harambe design a Lion King flume based on their interpretation of the Lion King film following the huge success of the FOTLK at Harambe Theatre just like Disney have interpreted many 'fairy tales' over the years. Therefore the art style in the ride would not be the same as the film but more African, think of the general Harambe art style around the land. I wouldn't have issues with them using the songs from the film.
2) TWDC company have gifted Harambe a multi-million dollar dark ride because they had some corporate outreach money burning a hole in their pocket. If you want to go very meta Disney could even sponsor the ride in universe in Harambe...
My point was more just that theaters are treated different than other attractions in terms of story. Whereas a ride or walkthrough is very much intended to connect to the story of a land, there’s a sort of acceptance that what is in a theater won’t necessarily be aligned with the story of the land. Even Festival of the Lion King is actually an example of this as it wasn’t developed for Africa.For avoidance of doubt I love FOTL and I think it is the perfect treatment for the Lion King in DAK and a flume ride isn't required.
Your examples exaggerate what anyone's actually proposing as far as a theme for Animal Kingdom. I can also cherry pick elements of any park to define contrived themes and rules that exclude a proposed concept just because I don't like it. And then claim it's a violation of the park's "theme" which I've defined out of convenience. I'm just pointing out the inconsistencies of these litmus testsApologies if I was a bit short. Theme parks have lots and lots of elements. If your criteria is “this appeared somewhere in the park at one point in time”, the theme could literally be anything and becomes a meaningless construct. I could go on and on about how Magic Kingdom has always contained lots of food and merch and so really we should turn the place into Disney Springs. Or a coaster park. Or a Renaissance Fair. Whatever. Lots of stuff has appeared in that park.
Without a deeper meaning for the word “theme” - all I can do is shrug and say “Ok, sure, that’s your opinion.” If I say Magic Kingdom was always themed to Disney Springs because shops, all you can do is shrug and say yeah, sure, that’s one opinion. At that point there’s little reason to even have a conversation and it would probably make more sense for Disney to poll their customers and see what the most popular theme for AK is, then go from there.
It's not hard to believe Harambe villagers would have created a boat version of its safari. Rather than seeing real animals and leaving us to make up stories behind their interactions, we see a specific fictional story featuring the same animatronic lion and warthog who performed at their local showI think there are two ways the Lion King flume could be designed to fit within Harambe. Both our outlandish and won't be done.
1) The village of Harambe design a Lion King flume based on their interpretation of the Lion King film following the huge success of the FOTLK at Harambe Theatre just like Disney have interpreted many 'fairy tales' over the years. Therefore the art style in the ride would not be the same as the film but more African, think of the general Harambe art style around the land. I wouldn't have issues with them using the songs from the film.
2) TWDC company have gifted Harambe a multi-million dollar dark ride because they had some corporate outreach money burning a hole in their pocket. If you want to go very meta Disney could even sponsor the ride in universe in Harambe...
For avoidance of doubt I love FOTL and I think it is the perfect treatment for the Lion King in DAK and a flume ride isn't required.
Can you give some examples of where DAK is kawaii?
Imagine all this discussion about if a Lion King ride fits into AK, and at D23 they only announced a Lion king ride for DLP
I just think it's an unwise decision to make a beautiful theme park with a section whose theme is "cheap theme park". It's too esoteric and academic
Your examples exaggerate what anyone's actually proposing as far as a theme for Animal Kingdom. I can also cherry pick elements of any park to define contrived themes and rules that exclude a proposed concept just because I don't like it. And then claim it's a violation of the park's "theme" which I've defined out of convenience. I'm just pointing out the inconsistencies of these litmus tests
If we get a ride like this... then it just about works for me.It's not hard to believe Harambe villagers would have created a boat version of its safari. Rather than seeing real animals and leaving us to make up stories behind their interactions, we see a specific fictional story featuring the same animatronic lion and warthog who performed at their local show
I'm not sure how most or all of this fits in with the definition of kawaii? But I don't think it matters with what we are talking about.Kawaii at DAK:
- Simba, Pumbaa, Timon, and the other animatronic animals at FOTK;
- the Finding Nemo show's depiction of fish;
- It's Tough to be a Bug's depiction of bugs;
- the UP show's depiction of a human, dog, and bird;
- Rafikii's planet watch depiction of a mandrill (is he meant to be a real mandrill hosting a petting zoo? or did these villagers outside of Harambe just use the movie character?)
- all of the character meet ups at DAK past and present;
- ~half the merchandise sold at the park past and present
Yes, the rumor is a ride.Just to confirm please, the excitement is the ride add to AK, not the restaurant add to Destiny?
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