WDW1974
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Originally Posted by WDW1974
You have made it clear you believe Eisner wasn't good for Disney. And you view Iger as some sort of savior. Totally untrue. But facts are not your strength. Obviously
Eisner didn't place anything. And PI existed when it was at THE END of DD ... it was later that a decision (a bad one, IMHO, even if I enjoy some of the items added) to add Westside and attempt to have a mall complex with a nightclub/entertainment zone smack in the center.
The West End was already on the drawing board when PI went in.
First JT, I don't keep a record of your posts like I'm reasonably sure you do of mine.
But I have read enough of your inane drivel to know you have often ripped Eisner and his management and decisions, while claiming that Iger is some great 'sheriff' who is riding in to clean up his old mentor's messes.
That has been the basis of countless posts of yours. To say otherwise is to blantantly lie and hope no one else will call you on it.
As to the Westside, it wasn't on the drawing boards in any real sense when PI opened. None. It was viewed as potential expansion for PI down the road. And indeed when it opened, it had a vibe closer to PI than to the Marketplace.
Disney decided they wanted one giant mall. They have one. Just one with a giant dead zone in the middle,albeit with a purrrty balloon (at night anyway).
You can believe whatever it is you choose. Believe the earth is flat, universal healthcare is evil and texting while driving is cool. I don't care. It doesn't make it so.
What you view as big decisions and what Eisner or any CEO in his position would view are two different things.
Iger doesn't have the time or interest in whether LoW are at EPCOT ... or SSE's descent is lousy ... or whether attractions at WDW are in miserable show condition. He doesn't.
That's reality.
Ultimately, a fish rots from the head down. So sure ... in the mythical 'big picture' Iger gets paid to take credit for all Disney does right and to be blamed for everything that fails.
But it doesn't work that way.
D-I-C-K Cook was following Iger's edict to focus on family and tentpole films and cut production drastically at Touchstone and Miramax. He did exactly what Iger wanted. And when it failed, largely, he was sent away. So yeah, Iger made a change. But he also passed the buck because his strategy was a failure.
Much like he says he will stop massive discounting at WDW, while at the same time doing the exact thing.
I'm setting the record straight. You ignorantly live in a world where Bob Iger plans WDW refurbs ... oops, I guess I should say prefurbs, right?
Did he pick out the furniture in the renovated BW rooms? ... What about the MK holiday decorations?
Um, exactly how would you know whether Eddie knows who I am or not? I am quite sure we haven't discussed that online. Perhaps you've been pumping him for info ... or maybe both ways?
Let me lay it out for you. I have tremendous respect for Eddie as an artist (although I don't think Sci-Fi City was nearly as great as some folks in the fan community do), but I certainly don't put him on a pedestal (I don't think he'd want that) because he was an Imagineer one time ... now over a decade past. I do wonder why he has opted to post just here, just in one thread and why he steers so clear from anything controversial about his ex-employer when I know the man was never shy about letting his feelings be known when he was working for WDI.
The fact he doesn't know who I am in the real world means nothing other than I value my privacy. Nothing against Eddie, but Bob Iger knows who I am (and not the WDW1974) part. And no, I don't think he likes me. His loss. On the other hand, Michael Eisner knows me as well ... and I am pretty damn sure if/when we run into each other, he'd be the first to extend his hand and buy me a drink.
Again, I don't see how you'd know what kind of relationship I have -- or don't have with an ex-Imagineer. And why that would remotely be important to anything.
And what kind of admission are you talking about?
No, JT, you're the one with the online hard-on ... and it gets old.
Originally Posted by WDW1974
You have made it clear you believe Eisner wasn't good for Disney. And you view Iger as some sort of savior. Totally untrue. But facts are not your strength. Obviously
Eisner didn't place anything. And PI existed when it was at THE END of DD ... it was later that a decision (a bad one, IMHO, even if I enjoy some of the items added) to add Westside and attempt to have a mall complex with a nightclub/entertainment zone smack in the center.
The West End was already on the drawing board when PI went in.
First JT, I don't keep a record of your posts like I'm reasonably sure you do of mine.
But I have read enough of your inane drivel to know you have often ripped Eisner and his management and decisions, while claiming that Iger is some great 'sheriff' who is riding in to clean up his old mentor's messes.
That has been the basis of countless posts of yours. To say otherwise is to blantantly lie and hope no one else will call you on it.
As to the Westside, it wasn't on the drawing boards in any real sense when PI opened. None. It was viewed as potential expansion for PI down the road. And indeed when it opened, it had a vibe closer to PI than to the Marketplace.
Disney decided they wanted one giant mall. They have one. Just one with a giant dead zone in the middle,albeit with a purrrty balloon (at night anyway).
You can believe whatever it is you choose. Believe the earth is flat, universal healthcare is evil and texting while driving is cool. I don't care. It doesn't make it so.
What you view as big decisions and what Eisner or any CEO in his position would view are two different things.
Iger doesn't have the time or interest in whether LoW are at EPCOT ... or SSE's descent is lousy ... or whether attractions at WDW are in miserable show condition. He doesn't.
That's reality.
Ultimately, a fish rots from the head down. So sure ... in the mythical 'big picture' Iger gets paid to take credit for all Disney does right and to be blamed for everything that fails.
But it doesn't work that way.
D-I-C-K Cook was following Iger's edict to focus on family and tentpole films and cut production drastically at Touchstone and Miramax. He did exactly what Iger wanted. And when it failed, largely, he was sent away. So yeah, Iger made a change. But he also passed the buck because his strategy was a failure.
Much like he says he will stop massive discounting at WDW, while at the same time doing the exact thing.
I'm setting the record straight. You ignorantly live in a world where Bob Iger plans WDW refurbs ... oops, I guess I should say prefurbs, right?
Did he pick out the furniture in the renovated BW rooms? ... What about the MK holiday decorations?
Um, exactly how would you know whether Eddie knows who I am or not? I am quite sure we haven't discussed that online. Perhaps you've been pumping him for info ... or maybe both ways?
Let me lay it out for you. I have tremendous respect for Eddie as an artist (although I don't think Sci-Fi City was nearly as great as some folks in the fan community do), but I certainly don't put him on a pedestal (I don't think he'd want that) because he was an Imagineer one time ... now over a decade past. I do wonder why he has opted to post just here, just in one thread and why he steers so clear from anything controversial about his ex-employer when I know the man was never shy about letting his feelings be known when he was working for WDI.
The fact he doesn't know who I am in the real world means nothing other than I value my privacy. Nothing against Eddie, but Bob Iger knows who I am (and not the WDW1974) part. And no, I don't think he likes me. His loss. On the other hand, Michael Eisner knows me as well ... and I am pretty damn sure if/when we run into each other, he'd be the first to extend his hand and buy me a drink.
Again, I don't see how you'd know what kind of relationship I have -- or don't have with an ex-Imagineer. And why that would remotely be important to anything.
And what kind of admission are you talking about?
No, JT, you're the one with the online hard-on ... and it gets old.
