Lights of Winter not being displayed this year (2009)!?!

[tirian]

Rest assured, between the online fury and the execs who walked into Epcot and wondered where the holidays had gone, the park will have much merrier Christmases in the future.

:xmas:

Too bad it had to take a stupid manager and poor storage choices to make it happen. (The LoW absence seems to be a combination of both.)

 

[hpyhnt 1000]

Rest assured, between the online fury and the execs who walked into Epcot and wondered where the holidays had gone, the park will have much merrier Christmases in the future.

:xmas:

Too bad it had to take a stupid manager and poor storage choices to make it happen. (The LoW absence seems to be a combination of both.)

Thank heavens. At least the execs aren't THAT brain dead. :xmas:

 

[puntagordabob]

Well then...that goes to show you that WDW does listen to our questions & concerns....and when enough people speak up, things can happen.

Gratz to those at WDW who stood up and said "fix this now"....and even though it is too late for 2009, as others stated this may bring an even brighter 2010 Holiday season for EPCOT Center!

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Rest assured, between the online fury and the execs who walked into Epcot and wondered where the holidays had gone, the park will have much merrier Christmases in the future.

:xmas:

Too bad it had to take a stupid manager and poor storage choices to make it happen. (The LoW absence seems to be a combination of both.)

So...Is the "Broken" part of the story true?

 

[jt04]

Rest assured, between the online fury and the execs who walked into Epcot and wondered where the holidays had gone, the park will have much merrier Christmases in the future.

:xmas:

As it should be.

 

[tirian]

So...Is the "Broken" part of the story true?

*Squirms*
Like Steve said, LoW was cut before the arches were inspected. That's all that matters. Certain control boxes *may* have rusted, but that's mostly being distributed to CMs as the official answer for angry Guests—and there are plenty of those!

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

*Squirms*
Like Steve said, LoW was cut before the arches were inspected. That's all that matters. Certain control boxes *may* have rusted, but that's mostly being distributed to CMs as the official answer for angry Guests—and there are plenty of those!

Your cadaverous pallor betrays a aura of foreboding, tirian.:lookaroun :lol:

Interesting, though. I wonder if there was any reason that is justifiable, though. If they would have come out and said something about being broken, or being rusted, it would have still been bad, but at least a viable reason.

 

[MythBuster]

So...Is the "Broken" part of the story true?

Absolutely not. But it also who you chose to believe? Management or CM's who actually work there.

Management cares about numbers and budgets and MONEY. They don't really care about the technology, just as long as it works and doesn't cost that much money.

Entertainment and Maintenance maintain them and work on them. Entertainment stores all their electronics indoor in the Production Services bldg at Epcot. All the lights, controllers, light boards, amps, audio equipment are stored indoor for several events that go in and out of the warehouse everyday. Only the arches themselves were being stored outside.

Ask any Entertainment person about LOW, they will just shake their head and laugh when you tell them what you heard about why they didnt install LOW. You ask them and they say, Do you want to hear Management "official" response or what really happened?

When they say it wasn't about the money, you know it was "really" about the money.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Absolutely not. But it also who you chose to believe? Management or CM's who actually work there.

Management cares about numbers and budgets and MONEY. They don't really care about the technology, just as long as it works and doesn't cost that much money.

Entertainment and Maintenance maintain them and work on them. Entertainment stores all their electronics indoor in the Production Services bldg at Epcot. All the lights, controllers, light boards, amps, audio equipment are stored indoor for several events that go in and out of the warehouse everyday. Only the arches themselves were being stored outside.

Ask any Entertainment person about LOW, they will just shake their head and laugh when you tell them what you heard about why they didnt install LOW. You ask them and they say, Do you want to hear Management "official" response or what really happened?

When they say it wasn't about the money, you know it was "really" about the money.

Interesting.


It conflicts so many times, I don't know who to believe at this point.:lol:

 

[wm49rs]

Merry Christmas to all!!!!

Interesting.


It conflicts so many times, I don't know who to believe at this point.:lol:

It's always a to determine what are the facts and and what are opinions, especially on these boards....:shrug:

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

It's always a to determine what are the facts and and what are opinions, especially on these boards....:shrug:

Yes, that, and what I heard from a pretty well trusted source of mine. :shrug:


This whole deal reeks of odd.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Double post, sorry...Mods delete!

 

[PhotoDave219]

Yes, that, and what I heard from a pretty well trusted source of mine. :shrug:


This whole deal reeks of odd.

From my dealings with Disney management and from what i hear from people still in the know, its not odd to me.

 

[tirian]

Absolutely not. But it also who you chose to believe? Management or CM's who actually work there.

Management cares about numbers and budgets and MONEY. They don't really care about the technology, just as long as it works and doesn't cost that much money.

Entertainment and Maintenance maintain them and work on them. Entertainment stores all their electronics indoor in the Production Services bldg at Epcot. All the lights, controllers, light boards, amps, audio equipment are stored indoor for several events that go in and out of the warehouse everyday. Only the arches themselves were being stored outside.

Ask any Entertainment person about LOW, they will just shake their head and laugh when you tell them what you heard about why they didnt install LOW. You ask them and they say, Do you want to hear Management "official" response or what really happened?

When they say it wasn't about the money, you know it was "really" about the money.

Exactly. It's cost-cutting at its worst: doing it regardless of show quality or the hard-earned Disney reputation.

 

[WDW Vacationer]

I wish Disney would just say Lights of Winter is no longer performing because*insert reason here*.

 

[wm49rs]

I wish Disney would just say Lights of Winter is no longer performing because*insert reason here*.

Well, Disney is not going to come out and say "We've eliminated Lights of Winter because someone figured out how much money it would save us." Which to me is the primary reason they cut the display....

 

[WDW Vacationer]

Well, Disney is not going to come out and say "We've eliminated Lights of Winter because someone figured out how much money it would save us." Which to me is the primary reason they cut the display....

Well,they at least could have attempted to come up with an excuse if that is the reason. Announcing something in 140 characters or less is not good.

 

[wm49rs]

Well,they at least could have attempted to come up with an excuse if that is the reason. Announcing something in 140 characters or less is not good.

I believe "obsolete technology" was the rationale used that was supposed to satisfy the masses. Epic fail there....

 

[WDW Vacationer]

I believe "obsolete technology" was the rationale used that was supposed to satisfy the masses. Epic fail there....

Yeah,this will go down as a BIG PR fumble.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Well,they at least could have attempted to come up with an excuse if that is the reason. Announcing something in 140 characters or less is not good.

Also shows a lot about the regard they have for their followers, too.