SingleRider
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Interestingly enough Tron has been $20 every day since it opened, not using variable pricing until now.
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Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World
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Minnesota disney fan
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It still just burns me that we have to pay if we want to ride these without big waits besides paying just for the pleasure of getting in! One of the reasons we won't be back.
Chi84
Premium Member
Have you decided you’re never going back, or are you open to changing your mind? If so, what would bring you back?
Epcot81Fan
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They really are living on the assumption that even the “low info” tourists will not eventually get the word on social media that the parks are overpriced, ridiculously complicated, and an overall terrible experience.
Social media is a fickle mistress.
One minute it’s millions of young girls fighting to get the selfie in front of the castle with mouse ears giving the peace sign to the next when it becomes ubiquitous knowledge that the parks are playing you for a sucker.
Social media is a fickle mistress.
One minute it’s millions of young girls fighting to get the selfie in front of the castle with mouse ears giving the peace sign to the next when it becomes ubiquitous knowledge that the parks are playing you for a sucker.
Chi84
Premium Member
Welcome to the forums!
Of those three I would only every consider standby for two of them and only if the wait was low. LL is a waste. To each there own.
Disgruntled Walt
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- In the Parks
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This is so ridiculous. When will they ever stop alienating the middle class?
John park hopper
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I remember way back when there was no fP, no lightning lane, no Genie+ everyone was treated equally you got in line --yes the lines were long but they moved quickly. Then the bean counters saw a way for Disney to make more $$$$$$ isn't this counter to Disney's inclusion policy----everyone should be treated equally -----pay your $$$ and get treated special
The glorious part is that they’re doing this because they’ve recognized it’s a failed system. LL needs busy parks to be successful, the parks are dead and have been since basically last Christmas, with a couple of isolated exceptions. LL is not needed for the average guest, and more of them are realizing this.
But it’s not just bodies through tap styles that matter. Food/Bev, merch, resorts have been negatively impacted by monetization programs like LL.
LL, in addition to all the other monetization schemes implemented over the past several have been one of the primary reason why people are choosing not to go. It’s not just the middle class, it’s locals, DVC families, Disney Adults, it’s across all income levels. The remarkably low attendance isn’t happening in a vacuum, it’s the end result of decades of poor leadership and failed choices and not understanding your customers.
John park hopper
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I guess it's the new Econ 101--- people aren't buying your product so you raise prices so even less people buy your product
It’s the only option they have.
From the same company that would rather shutter entire sections of their resorts to artificially keep their prices high.
They can kiss my back pocket if they think I'm paying ~ $145 to get in and another $21 to ride a two-minute roller coaster.
Joel
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You don't even want to know what that costs.
Minnesota disney fan
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Right now, no to going back. I would go back if they changed back to the way they were, you know, customer service and all the things they have taken away. I know this won't happen and it is sad. We started going to WDW in l977 and when our kids left home, the two of us started going yearly or more often. We enjoyed it so much and looked forward to it every year. There are a lot of wonderful memories there. I must admit, I do miss it so who knows? Our last visit was 2020 the week that Covid started. I could list all the reasons that have been talked about ad nauseum, but won't.
Minnesota disney fan
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I remember that time, John PH. We waited in line With Everyone Else,, and the lines constantly moved. If a line was too long for us to wait, we just went on to another line. It was more equal for everyone back then. You paid the entrance fee and all else was free. Imagine that. I think those of us who remember those simpler times are the ones most upset about how WDW has changed.
Chi84
Premium Member
I’m one who remembers those times except we skipped a lot of rides because of the lines. When they started fast pass it was a much better experience for us.
Disney’s current customer base wouldn’t accept having to stand in the kind of lines that would occur for the more popular rides.
Ask a Disney Focused TA about this. Guest Retention within the company has become a very big focus. They’re loosing a lot of their most loyal and high spending guests…and they know it.
Epcot81Fan
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They have figured out the problem: Guests hate the Rivers of America.