flynnibus
Premium Member
“I'm deeply sceptical of the notion that planning for a WDW trip is a novelty or something that wouldn't have benefitted guests in the good old days”That actually isn’t what I said at all, but it’s clear this is an issue where no middle ground is possible for some you, so I’m leaving it there.
literally the stuff people plan around trying to optimize today did not exist. No adrs except day of. No fastpass. No wait boards. No line apps. No early access or differing visitor hours. No dessert parties or dinner bundles to grab Crowd bypasses.
planning was like visiting other places. Know what you want to do, know what to avoid, know what you need, and have the tips on best ways to do things. None of this buy your way to the front, schedule hour by hour months in advance, or scrambling for line bypasses like they are gold that planning disney has become.
the loss of the equitable approach to guests is one of the biggest things people complained about when these changes started while the others happily bought they way… and now that is all we have.
Trust me… i know what ultra planning was at the time. We would keys to the kingdom passes that gave us virtually everything included. Three meals, snacks, all recreation. It was expensive so my father was keen to know if he was getting his money’s worth. So not only did he track all our spending, but we made sure we did every restaurant or show possible. Full slate of meals every day. Non of the DDP non-sense… the full on ‘everything is included’. A generation later it was cool because i can look back and know I experienced ALL of them and didn’t miss out. But even then it was excessive. But back then planning was getting a reservation first thing in the morning or buying a ticke
the kind of planning being discussed now doesn’t have any real bearing on Disney back then because literally the way guests visited and their opportunities were completely different.
people aren’t talking about “is it better to hit SSE in the morning or evening” in this hate over over planning