Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

[MisterPenguin]

There is a case to be made that entering at 3pm makes G+ more valuable if you it to its fullest.

If a park opens at 9, by 3pm you'd be booking your 4th LL and just be getting to the park.

Indeed.

If you want to go on *the most rides,* get to the parks early and use G+ for the next available ride every time you tap into a reserved attraction. Keep doing that throughout the day. The downside: the most popular rides book up fast, and so, by the end of the day, your only choices will be C-tier rides.

If you want to get on *the most E-Ticket rides,* grab them as they become available later in the day. And every two hours grab the next one. By mid-afternoon to the evening, you'll be able to 'walk on' top tier rides one after the other. So, you can wait to enter the park later in the day, or, go earlier and just get on line for the C-Ticket rides will lesser wait times.

 

[TQQQ]

We kept the old FP+ code around for a reason. It won't be an issue for us.

Why would they bring back a paid FP+ if it was so universally hated?

 

[GhostHost1000]

Why would they bring back a paid FP+ if it was so universally hated?

because they like to keep making things worse

if they just let people book 1 LL and ILL ahead of time (to get around the 7am day of crap) and let people select the times they want for each attraction it would help a little

 

[TQQQ]

because they like to keep making things worse

if they just let people book 1 LL and ILL ahead of time (to get around the 7am day of crap) and let people select the times they want for each attraction it would help a little

I think thats all people really want.......

 

[lentesta]

Why would they bring back a paid FP+ if it was so universally hated?

I think the current complaints about Genie+ mimic the old paper-based Fastpass system: People who pay $10,000 for a room at the Grand Flo still have to wake up at 7 a.m. to get the best choices.

 

[TQQQ]

I think the current complaints about Genie+ mimic the old paper-based Fastpass system: People who pay $10,000 for a room at the Grand Flo still have to wake up at 7 a.m. to get the best choices.

Very Likely......But unlike the problems with FP+, Genie+ can be easily fixed by allowing to pre book that first LL selection in advance while preserving the integrity of it's current function

 

[DisneyDave54321]

@lentesta do you have any idea on the timing of this? When they are going to announce?

 

[lentesta]

@lentesta do you have any idea on the timing of this? When they are going to announce?

I don’t. I expect other things to be announced first.

 

[AmishGuy91]

I don’t. I expect other things to be announced first.

Like DAS crackdown?

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

Why would they bring back a paid FP+ if it was so universally hated?

FP+ was not “universally hated,” I don’t know why this keeps getting repeated. It had significantly better GSAT scores than Genie+. Granted, I’m sure most of this is because FP+ was free and Genie+ is not, so what kind of GSAT scores it gets now is anyone’s guess. I agree **paid** FP+ will probably have worse gsat scores than Genie+, but **free** FP+ definitely was better liked.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

I don’t. I expect other things to be announced first.

I have a trip from February 14th - 19th. I would really love it if they **didn’t** implement the changes until after my trip just because I hate the uncertainty changes like this throw into planning. Any idea if I’m safe?

 

[TQQQ]

I have a trip from February 14th - 19th. I would really love it if they **didn’t** implement the changes until after my trip just because I hate the uncertainty changes like this throw into planning. Any idea if I’m safe?

I would bet you are.

 

[TQQQ]

FP+ was not “universally hated,” I don’t know why this keeps getting repeated. It had significantly better GSAT scores than Genie+. Granted, I’m sure most of this is because FP+ was free and Genie+ is not, so what kind of GSAT scores it gets now is anyone’s guess. I agree **paid** FP+ will probably have worse gsat scores than Genie+, but **free** FP+ definitely was better liked.

Yeah it was. It’s one of the main reasons they got rid of it

 

[Splash4eva]

Yeah it was. It’s one of the main reasons they got rid of it

Altho i agree with many of your takes i was a fan of FP+ and had plenty of success with it altho ive been many times on here that i was either lying or exaggerating lol

 

[AmishGuy91]

Yeah it was. It’s one of the main reasons they got rid of it

And yet they replaced it with an inferior product that they keep changing closer to what FP+ was. The only reason they replaced FP+ is because they wanted to monetize it and felt they had to change the product to do so instead of charging for something that used to be free.

 

[TQQQ]

Altho i agree with many of your takes i was a fan of FP+ and had plenty of success with it altho ive been many times on here that i was either lying or exaggerating lol

There was no inventory for non resort guests. All the top rides weee gone at the 30 day mark. Getting additional FP+ selections beyond your first 3 was next to impossible. It had very poor results unless you rope dropped. No overlapping of times made it even harder. The only thing it has over Genie+ was it was free.

Genie+ just needs to be tweaked to correct its flaws. I don’t think Disney needs to go as far as they are going to go. Allow pre booking in place of the 7am and buy ILLs and see how that is received.

 

[Splash4eva]

There was no inventory for non resort guests. All the top rides weee gone at the 30 day mark. Getting additional FP+ selections beyond your first 3 was next to impossible. It had very poor results unless you rope dropped. No overlapping of times made it even harder. The only thing it has over Genie+ was it was free.

Genie+ just needs to be tweaked to correct its flaws. I don’t think Disney needs to go as far as they are going to go. Allow pre booking in place of the 7am and buy ILLs and see how that is received.

See i have no issue for the resort guest perk and contrary to what people say i had success after the initial 3 and pretty solid attractions as well. Granted i may not be the norm but definitely my experience

 

[UNCgolf]

Yeah it was. It’s one of the main reasons they got rid of it

They didn't get rid of it because it was disliked; they got rid of it because it was causing operational nightmares.

 

[TQQQ]

They didn't get rid of it because it was disliked; they got rid of it because it was causing operational nightmares.

Sorry but that is incorrect.

 

[UNCgolf]

Sorry but that is incorrect.

It isn't, as was pointed out above. FP+ had solid satisfaction scores overall.

They didn't get rid of it because of guest satisfaction -- it may have been a consideration, but it wasn't the driving force.