Why would they bring back a paid FP+ if it was so universally hated?
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GhostHost1000
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because they like to keep making things worse
if they just let people book 1 LL and ILL ahead of time (to get around the 7am day of crap) and let people select the times they want for each attraction it would help a little
I think thats all people really want.......
lentesta
Premium Member
I think the current complaints about Genie+ mimic the old paper-based Fastpass system: People who pay $10,000 for a room at the Grand Flo still have to wake up at 7 a.m. to get the best choices.
Very Likely......But unlike the problems with FP+, Genie+ can be easily fixed by allowing to pre book that first LL selection in advance while preserving the integrity of it's current function
DisneyDave54321
Member
lentesta
Premium Member
I don’t. I expect other things to be announced first.
Wes Tacker
Well-Known Member
Like DAS crackdown?
Fido Chuckwagon
Well-Known Member
FP+ was not “universally hated,” I don’t know why this keeps getting repeated. It had significantly better GSAT scores than Genie+. Granted, I’m sure most of this is because FP+ was free and Genie+ is not, so what kind of GSAT scores it gets now is anyone’s guess. I agree **paid** FP+ will probably have worse gsat scores than Genie+, but **free** FP+ definitely was better liked.
Fido Chuckwagon
Well-Known Member
I have a trip from February 14th - 19th. I would really love it if they **didn’t** implement the changes until after my trip just because I hate the uncertainty changes like this throw into planning. Any idea if I’m safe?
I would bet you are.
Yeah it was. It’s one of the main reasons they got rid of it
Splash4eva
Well-Known Member
Altho i agree with many of your takes i was a fan of FP+ and had plenty of success with it altho ive been many times on here that i was either lying or exaggerating lol
Wes Tacker
Well-Known Member
And yet they replaced it with an inferior product that they keep changing closer to what FP+ was. The only reason they replaced FP+ is because they wanted to monetize it and felt they had to change the product to do so instead of charging for something that used to be free.
There was no inventory for non resort guests. All the top rides weee gone at the 30 day mark. Getting additional FP+ selections beyond your first 3 was next to impossible. It had very poor results unless you rope dropped. No overlapping of times made it even harder. The only thing it has over Genie+ was it was free.
Genie+ just needs to be tweaked to correct its flaws. I don’t think Disney needs to go as far as they are going to go. Allow pre booking in place of the 7am and buy ILLs and see how that is received.
Splash4eva
Well-Known Member
See i have no issue for the resort guest perk and contrary to what people say i had success after the initial 3 and pretty solid attractions as well. Granted i may not be the norm but definitely my experience
UNCgolf
Well-Known Member
They didn't get rid of it because it was disliked; they got rid of it because it was causing operational nightmares.
Sorry but that is incorrect.
UNCgolf
Well-Known Member
It isn't, as was pointed out above. FP+ had solid satisfaction scores overall.
They didn't get rid of it because of guest satisfaction -- it may have been a consideration, but it wasn't the driving force.
I liked FP+. But I think it was flawed. Genie+ has proven that. Tom Brickers post today backs up the fact that FP+ was hated.
Tom Bricker. January 10, 2024
“I’m actually surprised to see so many negative comments about FastPass+ in the comments here. I remember when Genie+ was announced, I was the one telling everyone that FastPass+ was hated by a huge subset of WDW guests–and no one listened (or believed me) then. The thing is, it was popular with the planners–the people who read sites like this–and they overlooked its shortcomings.”