Leave a Legacy Steals Souls!

[disneydudette]

I'm really not sure why anyone would think that after spending thousands of dollars to get my family there, surrounding myself with swarms of crowds via buses, monorails, and parking trams, that the first thing I "really" wanna see when I walk into a park with my family.. is other people's faces?! :dazzle:

I liked the LaL concept... but the execution was down right horrible. For instance look at the bricks at the MK/TTA/CR Walkway. It's a lot of fun to see peoples names, engagments, anniverseries, special events, trips, etc. It blends in nice and they're a "part" of the park. Even if your not a fan of the bricks, after a while, you barely notice them. The same can't be said for LaL.

I feel that these stones take way too much focus off SEE. In Sept I realized how big SEE truly was once the wand was removed... I was in awe! I guess we didn't realize how that one object could really overshadow something like that... and I think the same can be said for LaL too.

Overall we "rarely" take front pictures of SEE due to just speed walking past this area. We feel that we're not even "in" Epcot until we pass under SSE these days... it's such a shame.

 

[scottnj1966]

They have to stay ten years after the last one was sold.
So they are not going anywhere for awhile. As with everything at Disney, things change, lately for the worse though.

The couple of people that always add these posts about this area have something else going on. It is a very pretty area at night.

Not everyone can like the same thing. The problem with that is we lose so many good things because of a handful of people in the world.

 

[DisneyChik17]

They have to stay ten years after the last one was sold.

Since the last one was sold? The way I see it is that they can begin removing the ones that have been there for 10 years now, and slowly remove them all using that system.

 

[jt04]

Since the last one was sold? The way I see it is that they can begin removing the ones that have been there for 10 years now, and slowly remove them all using that system.

I would take great pleasure in watching it melt away over the next 10 years. It would be fun to visit and realize on each visit that more of the memorial has been removed. Great idea!

Of course I also wouldn't mind if it got the same treatment as the wand and removed quickly. I remember Epcot before the tombstones and the critics that complain about it's removal will be the one's saying the loudest, "Oh, now I get it! It's beautiful without the tombstones". :hammer:

You know it's true.

 

[unkadug]

If they were moved somewhere else on property less obtrusive, Disney would still be upholding their agreement to have them up for 10 years.

Less obtrusive....I'm thinking Backlot Tour! :shrug:

 

[SDav10495]

Less obtrusive....I'm thinking Backlot Tour! :shrug:

And the Backlot Tour even has a perfectly-themed section for the slabs--the Boneyard!

 

[jt04]

And the Backlot Tour even has a perfectly-themed section for the slabs--the Boneyard!

The only problem with the Backlot is that they are supposed to stay in a place where people might actually see them. :drevil:

 

[unkadug]

The only problem with the Backlot is that they are supposed to stay in a place where people might actually see them. :drevil:

If the Backlot Tour actually had anything on it to draw people....wait if you put LaL on the Backlot Tour there would actually be something for people to see.

It's a Win-Win

 

[CuriousDeGeo]

As it has already been said, of course everyone is entitled to their opinion but just keep this in mind. LAL was designed to do exactly that and I believe it truly has. Sure the shapes may not appeal to everyone but an organized arrangement of a few 10-15 feet tall walls is only going to obstruct the view of an 18 story geodesic sphere so much. I cannot say from experience how Spaceship Earth looked without LAL because I've honestly only been to WDW since they went up, but I have a tile on the wall with my sister and let me just say that being able to go to see that little thumbnail image of her and I from our first Disney trip brings back wonderful memories. I think once people get around the fact that they are more monuments of remembrance than just large stone walls than they won't seem like such an "eyesore". Disney World is a place about making memories and LAL has been able to preserve the memory of my first trip as well as thousands of others.

 

[amandagibbins]

By your avatar, I can see you are biased, but for the 99.9% of the other people who go there and didn't buy one of those ridiculous tiles, I'd like to say that those slabs are the ugliest thing on all of Disney property and need to go. The entrance is supposed to entice you into starting to dream about your entry into a new world, not creep you out feeling you are walking through a graveyard. The fact that probably only 10% of the space they set aside on those slabs was actually sold should tell you that a lot of people agree.

The graveyard is horrible.

Doesn't this view look better?

your speaking for 99% of the people who go to Epcot now?

 

[raven]

By your avatar, I can see you are biased, but for the 99.9% of the other people who go there and didn't buy one of those ridiculous tiles, I'd like to say that those slabs are the ugliest thing on all of Disney property and need to go.

Where are you getting these figures from? Many people have tiles. Not as many as expected but many do.

The entrance is supposed to entice you into starting to dream about your entry into a new world, not creep you out feeling you are walking through a graveyard. The graveyard is horrible.

This is only your opinion. Not everyone's.

[qoute=Ratatouille;2695782]
Doesn't this view look better?

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Um, actually no. That was taken at ground level over the old fountain directly in front of SEE and doesn't even include the entrace area in the photo. So it's unfair to judge the stones compared to an 80's photo that doesn't include the area in question.

By all means I can clearly see why people think they look ugly. But do the people who say this even have a photo on the stones? Probably not. Now that my picture is on one of the stones I understand the meaning and feeling the need to keep them there...for a little while at least.

Although the entrance isn't the same as the original, isn't the whole meaning of EPCOT to keep up with the future and technology? They will no doubt be outdated someday but for now they can stay.

 

[ChrisQ]

I would wager that the majority of folks that walk in the front gates don't even give them a second thought, nor do they think they are tombstones.:brick:

I'm kinda like you; I never really notice them, as I'm concentrating on getting on into the park for the fun. But when thinking about it, I'll admit they are ugly. Whether they need to be moved or removed, I don't really have an opinion.

 

[jt04]

I'm kinda like you; I never really notice them, as I'm concentrating on getting on into the park for the fun. But when thinking about it, I'll admit they are ugly. Whether they need to be moved or removed, I don't really have an opinion.

It didn't take "concentration" before they put that tombstone mess in the way, you just kinda.......walked in.

 

[dismedic]

Although the entrance isn't the same as the original, isn't the whole meaning of EPCOT to keep up with the future and technology? They will no doubt be outdated someday but for now they can stay.

NO NO everything has to revert back to the beginning the purist throw a hissy fit if its not what was, EPCOT is about the future GO FORWARD not what was, Besides the old entrance was as bland as bland could be as far as welcoming you into the future what is so futuristic about a concrete walkway and a fountain along with palms ?? Ill never understand it :hammer:

 

[jt04]

Although the entrance isn't the same as the original, isn't the whole meaning of EPCOT to keep up with the future and technology? They will no doubt be outdated someday but for now they can stay.

NO NO everything has to revert back to the beginning the purist throw a hissy fit if its not what was, EPCOT is about the future GO FORWARD not what was, Besides the old entrance was as bland as bland could be as far as welcoming you into the future what is so futuristic about a concrete walkway and a fountain along with palms ?? Ill never understand it :hammer:

It's a Zen thing

 

[SirNim]

Although the entrance isn't the same as the original, isn't the whole meaning of EPCOT to keep up with the future and technology? They will no doubt be outdated someday but for now they can stay.

Aye, there's the rub.

There's nothing more pro-past and anti-future and anti-technology than granite boulders. Look no further than the Stone Age.

Transparent, crystalline monoliths, representing a more futuristic idiom, spaced out and not clumped so together in such great number, would have been a far more compelling execution for this inherently flawed concept.

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

Yep, those headstones are ugly, but I find the hat at DHS way more offensive and way more prominent. I say remove BOTH.

 

[dxwwf3]

Aye, there's the rub.

There's nothing more pro-past and anti-future and anti-technology than granite boulders. Look no further than the Stone Age.

Transparent, crystalline monoliths, representing a more futuristic idiom, spaced out and not clumped so together in such great number, would have been a far more compelling execution for this inherently flawed concept.

:lol::lol::lol:

 

[dismedic]

Transparent, crystalline monoliths, representing a more futuristic idiom, spaced out and not clumped so together in such great number, would have been a far more compelling execution for this inherently flawed concept.

Yep OK plastic/lexan monoliths represent the future :snore:

 

[SirNim]

Transparent, crystalline monoliths, representing a more futuristic idiom, spaced out and not clumped so together in such great number, would have been a far more compelling execution for this inherently flawed concept.

Yep OK plastic/lexan monoliths represent the future :snore:

They do moreso than granite boulders. But still, the entire concept is inherently flawed, since it prescribes as a remedy for visual clarity and freedom a hearty dose of clutter and intrusion using a Stone Age-style idiom of massive, foreboding, opaque hunks of sculpted quasi-synthetic rock rather than a streamlined and obviously synthetic "crystal." Not to mention the "memorial" aspect involving those with etchings who have passed away. Not to mention how most of the plaza greenery was torn asunder and replaced not with other greenery, but with sun-catching, heat-absorbing, expansive concrete and rock. That organic, rocky style is a remnant of the mid-to-late-1990s and early 2000s, and is gradually being replaced by a more "back to the future" style, very similar to the new graphic style developed for "Web 2.0"—transparent floating graphics, technology fully integrated into the play called life, rather than just being a spectator in the audience.

And that's all I've got to say 'bout that for now.