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All hope is being drained from you, huh!

Eh. If Steve is saying something this emphatically, it has to have some degree of truth.

However, it does clash a bit with what Martin said, and what other various sources have been saying.

Maybe there's a mix of stuff going on.


No offense to Steve, of course....:wave:
 

wdwmagic

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Maybe the did enough then for a total replacement now?:lookaroun:ROFLOL:


I'm pulling at straws here, Steve...Help me out!:lol:

LOL I'm just trying to ground people on this one. It's a refurb just like TTA, nothing special. This whole thing has been blown totally out of proportion, and I can see it now, everyone is buying into all the rumor of big things happening, and then when it reopens there will be all the complaints. I'm just trying to let you know now ahead of time. It's gonna reopen as basically the same ride as it closed.

On the plus side, the new ride control system will make the ride more reliable with less downtime. So that is something to be happy about.

Direct your oooohing and ahhhhing to the FL project, not SM ;)
 

wdwmagic

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Eh. If Steve is saying something this emphatically, it has to have some degree of truth.

However, it does clash a bit with what Martin said, and what other various sources have been saying.

Maybe there's a mix of stuff going on.


No offense to Steve, of course....:wave:

None taken, but you'll see soon enough.
 

krankenstein

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Hey Evan, remember this?

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:lookaroun
 

EPCOT Explorer

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LOL I'm just trying to ground people on this one. It's a refurb just like TTA, nothing special. This whole thing has been blown totally out of proportion, and I can see it now, everyone is buying into all the rumor of big things happening, and then when it reopens there will be all the complaints. I'm just trying to let you know now ahead of time. It's gonna reopen as basically the same ride as it closed.

On the plus side, the new ride control system will make the ride more reliable with less downtime. So that is something to be happy about.

Direct your oooohing and ahhhhing to the FL project, not SM ;)
I should be ooohing and ahhing over both!:eek:


Well, at least it'll be patched. That is something to be happy about, you are right...even though it is something that's necessary.
 

Figment632

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While this is looking like a Nickle and dime refurb and um upset with not getting the DL upgrades I'm not that upset by this one. I love WDW SM, it's the original SM and a much better coaster than DL's. The sad thing is with the DL upgrades the WDW SM would be the best.
 

WDW Vacationer

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While this is looking like a Nickle and dime refurb and um upset with not getting the DL upgrades I'm not that upset by this one. I love WDW SM, it's the original SM and a much better coaster than DL's. The sad thing is with the DL upgrades the WDW SM would be the best.
Is it part of the 2009 Nickel and Dime Fest?
 

wdwmagic

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But Steve, aren't most of the downtimes due to cascading E-Stops because of slow dispatches and the trains back up?

Yeah they are, and the new system apparently can handle this much better and keep things going during those types of issues.
 

wdwmagic

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I should be ooohing and ahhing over both!:eek:


Well, at least it'll be patched. That is something to be happy about, you are right...even though it is something that's necessary.

Well no not really. You cant ooh and ahh over what is a maintenance/system refurb. (unless you are mad keen on ride control systems - then you might be impressed). Disney have NEVER said this will be a show refurb - that is all from the internet rumor mill - and as is often the case, its wide of the mark.
 

djkidkaz

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LOL I'm just trying to ground people on this one. It's a refurb just like TTA, nothing special. This whole thing has been blown totally out of proportion, and I can see it now, everyone is buying into all the rumor of big things happening, and then when it reopens there will be all the complaints. I'm just trying to let you know now ahead of time. It's gonna reopen as basically the same ride as it closed.

On the plus side, the new ride control system will make the ride more reliable with less downtime. So that is something to be happy about.

Direct your oooohing and ahhhhing to the FL project, not SM ;)

I think the only reason there is so much speculation is due to the amount of downtime. Everyone here is trying to accept the idea that its basically been for cleaning and a new control system, but from what we've seen of the ceiling and the old track and lift hill sequence, nothing looks cleaned at all. 8 months to redo the queue and add a new ride control just seems like a VERY long time. I think everyone is just trying to figure out why it took so long to do so little. :shrug:
 

wdwmagic

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I think the only reason there is so much speculation is due to the amount of downtime. Everyone here is trying to accept the idea that its basically been for cleaning and a new control system, but from what we've seen of the ceiling and the old track and lift hill sequence, nothing looks cleaned at all. 8 months to redo the queue and add a new ride control just seems like a VERY long time. I think everyone is just trying to figure out why it took so long to do so little. :shrug:

Well time scales to do this things depend largely on budgets. If you want to throw bucket loads of resources at a job you can get things done quickly. Looking at the mountain activity over the months, its been clear it hasnt been a massive operation. You also have to factor in that they are going to need an extensive test period with an all new ride system, which is what it looks like its in right now.

I dont think we'll ever know why its been this long. They obviously have they have their reasons, but from the outside we arent going to get that info. So we gotta live with that.
 

muteki

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Well no not really. You cant ooh and ahh over what is a maintenance/system refurb. (unless you are mad keen on ride control systems - then you might be impressed). Disney have NEVER said this will be a show refurb - that is all from the internet rumor mill - and as is often the case, its wide of the mark.

So are we not getting queue and post show updates? Is there a particular reason why the view of the post show area from the TTA was just recently walled off?
 

wdwmagic

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So are we not getting queue and post show updates? Is there a particular reason why the view of the post show area from the TTA was just recently walled off?

There is a new queue. I dont have info on what (if any) the show changes are to the queue.
 

janoimagine

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If it is true, the no on board audio makes no sense.:shrug:

It does and doesn't ... I mean they could replace the track, but if they didn't replace the supports that hold the track, then that would account for the inability to support the weight of the cars with onboard audio. Unless I have missed something. :shrug:

EDIT: Sorry guys .. late to the party as usual ... still on page 5 trying to catch up. ODST has been all consuming lately. :)
 

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