John has new pants! (Minor CoP update)

Figments Friend

Figments Friend

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MissM said:
The thing that annoys me the most is a trivial thing in the final act; the wrapped present near Grandma next to the one the cat is sleeping on features a Santa Claus gift wrap. But it's SO OLD and SO FADED it's just clearly the fakest of the fake.
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See...that is just Grandma up to her old 'penny pinching' tricks - She saved that old paper from some years ago to 'reuse'....

:D

Nice to hear of some CoP love.

Speaking of CoP..and all who love it....

Have ya'all seen the special Limited Edition pin out now honoring CoPs 30th Anniversary? It's pretty sweet...with Mickey playing the part of 'John' and Pluto next to him on the rug as 'Rover. Has the current CoP Gear Logo on it too.....

Thought i would mention it for anyone into pins ( and CoP love!!)

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Animaniac93-98

Animaniac93-98

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In addition to the changes in Act 4 (and 1, I agree that the John AA needs help), the carpeting and seat cushions really need to be replaced IMO.
 
Victoria

Victoria

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MissM said:
I don't mind Grandfather saying "laser discs" because a lot of older people tend to get modern terminology mixed up. It's almost a little cute if they left it in there. But there's definitely no excuse for "car phone" from the daughter.

The thing that annoys me the most is a trivial thing in the final act; the wrapped present near Grandma next to the one the cat is sleeping on features a Santa Claus gift wrap. But it's SO OLD and SO FADED it's just clearly the fakest of the fake.

I always think about those design shows on HGTV and such and how for $1,000 they could completely remodel and update that last scene! :lol:
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Design on a Dime CoP Edition would be amazing. :lol:

*nominates CoP for the show*
 
Figment1986

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MissM said:
I don't mind Grandfather saying "laser discs" because a lot of older people tend to get modern terminology mixed up. It's almost a little cute if they left it in there. But there's definitely no excuse for "car phone" from the daughter.

The thing that annoys me the most is a trivial thing in the final act; the wrapped present near Grandma next to the one the cat is sleeping on features a Santa Claus gift wrap. But it's SO OLD and SO FADED it's just clearly the fakest of the fake.

I always think about those design shows on HGTV and such and how for $1,000 they could completely remodel and update that last scene! :lol:
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I thought he always said High Def Television... seeing HD TV was being talked about since the early 90s... (today they are talking about the next gen HD TV in addition to 3D TV)
 
MissM

MissM

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Figments Friend said:
Have ya'all seen the special Limited Edition pin out now honoring CoPs 30th Anniversary? It's pretty sweet...with Mickey playing the part of 'John' and Pluto next to him on the rug as 'Rover. Has the current CoP Gear Logo on it too.....
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Darnit! I was there yesterday (obviously) and even specifically looked at pins and did not see that one! Grr.

Figment1986 said:
I thought he always said High Def Television...
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He does say "high def tv" but he also says "laser disks."

GRANDPA: I can't believe all the new gadgets they've got now. Did you know in my day--
PATRICIA: Oh no. You're not going to tell us about the old days when you didn't even have a car phone.
GRANDPA: (He chuckles.) Hey Trisch, for a while we didn't even have a house phone. Not to mention laser discs and high def TV. Everything is automated these days, including...
From off stage we hear a toilet flushing.
GRANDPA: (Continuing.) Well, including that.
COUSIN ORVILLE: (Off stage.) No privacy at all around this place!


(source: http://www.carouselofprogress.com/The Carousel of Progress dscript2.htm )

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Animaniac93-98 said:
In addition to the changes in Act 4 (and 1, I agree that the John AA needs help), the carpeting and seat cushions really need to be replaced IMO.
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There is ONE of the theaters that has updated/new seats. They're so comfy if you're lucky enough to get them. I actually did get it yesterday. They actually did it probably almost a year ago now but the odds of getting that one theater mean you may not realize there has been an improvement done. I had high hopes back when they did the first one that they'd eventually do the rest but so far....no luck.

Meanwhile, oddball changes like this and last year's iced tea updates and such do take place. Just nothing big enough for most people to notice.
 
Rob562

Rob562

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MissM said:
I don't mind Grandfather saying "laser discs" because a lot of older people tend to get modern terminology mixed up. It's almost a little cute if they left it in there. But there's definitely no excuse for "car phone" from the daughter.
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I know that car phones were all the rage when it was written, but I have a different take on how you could look at the "car phone" comment...

Perhaps it's good-natured ribbing of the grandfather by the daughter, because Grandpa was always over-embellishing his stories... Replace the line with "Oh no. You're not going to tell us about the old days when you didn't even have indoor running water..." to which Grandpa replies with "Hey Trish, for a while we didn't even have WATER..."

-Rob
 
MissM

MissM

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Rob562 said:
Perhaps it's good-natured ribbing of the grandfather by the daughter, because Grandpa was always over-embellishing his stories... Replace the line with "Oh no. You're not going to tell us about the old days when you didn't even have indoor running water..." to which Grandpa replies with "Hey Trish, for a while we didn't even have WATER..."

-Rob
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:lol: Yeah it goes along, the ever famous walked to school - in the snow! - uphill both ways! old-timer stories. :D
 
IWant2GoNow

IWant2GoNow

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I love this ride but I hate taking my friends on it because I feel like they're going to be bored out of their minds. Does anyone else feel like this show should now be titled "Carousel of lack of Progress"? When I was a kid riding this for the first time in '94 I remember seeing the last scene and thinking to myself "wow, all this stuff is really cool, but most of it will never happen". Now of course I look back and laugh at myself but the ride remains unchanged... or in other words "no progress". I can see where some people might want them to incorporate things like iPods, or like Microsoft's Natal, but I'd rather see them turn the last scene into what it used to be... a look at the future. Right now it's more of a look at the present/past. And while updating it to newer technology would certainly get it closer to what it should be, it would still be present day technology. I want to be "wowed" again by the future scene like I was as a kid. This stuff may sound silly but it's stuff that I'd like to see... keep in mind a lot of the stuff that's in that final scene may have sounded silly back before it was built.

Some sort of hologram, whether it be a family member who is visiting for Christmas via hologram or maybe a hologram Christmas tree?

LCD or LED walls that change color or put a landscape or background up. Have John say something like "Who changed the walls to this dark blue? We need a lighter mood for Christmas." Then have him change the walls to a lighter blue using an app on his iPad all the while explaining that we no longer have to worry about wallpaper or painting walls with this new LED technology. Then have him change it to like a snowy scene with mountains in the background on the walls or something like that.

Have them mention how amazing it is that Grandpa has recovered so quickly from his replacement heart surgery. Then talk about how they can't believe they were able to regrow a completely new heart for him in less than a week's time. And then have Grandpa say something like "Yea and now I'm fit as a fiddle!"

They should also have some sort of robot butler and John should be able to ask it questions and have it answer him, like a robot "Google". Like "When did Avatar come out in theatres?" and then it responds "December 18th, 2009". Stuff like that.

Oh... and a Roomba. :)

The "Carousel of Progress" is a great idea and I think instead of keeping this one as is for Walt's sake, I think he would want the future scene to always be updated and looking forward. Sorry for the long winded post. :wave:
 
calicommando

calicommando

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IWant2GoNow said:
I love this ride but I hate taking my friends on it because I feel like they're going to be bored out of their minds. Does anyone else feel like this show should now be titled "Carousel of lack of Progress"? When I was a kid riding this for the first time in '94 I remember seeing the last scene and thinking to myself "wow, all this stuff is really cool, but most of it will never happen". Now of course I look back and laugh at myself but the ride remains unchanged... or in other words "no progress". I can see where some people might want them to incorporate things like iPods, or like Microsoft's Natal, but I'd rather see them turn the last scene into what it used to be... a look at the future. Right now it's more of a look at the present/past. And while updating it to newer technology would certainly get it closer to what it should be, it would still be present day technology. I want to be "wowed" again by the future scene like I was as a kid. This stuff may sound silly but it's stuff that I'd like to see... keep in mind a lot of the stuff that's in that final scene may have sounded silly back before it was built.

Some sort of hologram, whether it be a family member who is visiting for Christmas via hologram or maybe a hologram Christmas tree?

LCD or LED walls that change color or put a landscape or background up. Have John say something like "Who changed the walls to this dark blue? We need a lighter mood for Christmas." Then have him change the walls to a lighter blue using an app on his iPad all the while explaining that we no longer have to worry about wallpaper or painting walls with this new LED technology. Then have him change it to like a snowy scene with mountains in the background on the walls or something like that.

Have them mention how amazing it is that Grandpa has recovered so quickly from his replacement heart surgery. Then talk about how they can't believe they were able to regrow a completely new heart for him in less than a week's time. And then have Grandpa say something like "Yea and now I'm fit as a fiddle!"

They should also have some sort of robot butler and John should be able to ask it questions and have it answer him, like a robot "Google". Like "When did Avatar come out in theatres?" and then it responds "December 18th, 2009". Stuff like that.

Oh... and a Roomba. :)

The "Carousel of Progress" is a great idea and I think instead of keeping this one as is for Walt's sake, I think he would want the future scene to always be updated and looking forward. Sorry for the long winded post. :wave:
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I agree very much. I also remember thinking "It would be cool if this stuff could ever really happen." It would be nice to be wowed again by the futurism of the final scene.
 
IWant2GoNow

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calicommando said:
I agree very much. I also remember thinking "It would be cool if this stuff could ever really happen." It would be nice to be wowed again by the futurism of the final scene.
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Yea I thought that also. :) In a sense, I view Epcot in the same way. Future World has almost become Present World. I used to really enjoy looking at "things to come" or "things that would be cool but not practical" or even "things that will NEVER be but are cool". Maybe Innoventions still shows this but the last time I was in there, I think in 2007, it just seemed like a giant ball of commercialism for present technology. I did however really enjoy the surround sound demonstration show.
 
Oddysey

Oddysey

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IWant2GoNow said:
I love this ride but I hate taking my friends on it because I feel like they're going to be bored out of their minds. Does anyone else feel like this show should now be titled "Carousel of lack of Progress"? When I was a kid riding this for the first time in '94 I remember seeing the last scene and thinking to myself "wow, all this stuff is really cool, but most of it will never happen". Now of course I look back and laugh at myself but the ride remains unchanged... or in other words "no progress". I can see where some people might want them to incorporate things like iPods, or like Microsoft's Natal, but I'd rather see them turn the last scene into what it used to be... a look at the future. Right now it's more of a look at the present/past. And while updating it to newer technology would certainly get it closer to what it should be, it would still be present day technology. I want to be "wowed" again by the future scene like I was as a kid. This stuff may sound silly but it's stuff that I'd like to see... keep in mind a lot of the stuff that's in that final scene may have sounded silly back before it was built.

Some sort of hologram, whether it be a family member who is visiting for Christmas via hologram or maybe a hologram Christmas tree?

LCD or LED walls that change color or put a landscape or background up. Have John say something like "Who changed the walls to this dark blue? We need a lighter mood for Christmas." Then have him change the walls to a lighter blue using an app on his iPad all the while explaining that we no longer have to worry about wallpaper or painting walls with this new LED technology. Then have him change it to like a snowy scene with mountains in the background on the walls or something like that.

Have them mention how amazing it is that Grandpa has recovered so quickly from his replacement heart surgery. Then talk about how they can't believe they were able to regrow a completely new heart for him in less than a week's time. And then have Grandpa say something like "Yea and now I'm fit as a fiddle!"

They should also have some sort of robot butler and John should be able to ask it questions and have it answer him, like a robot "Google". Like "When did Avatar come out in theatres?" and then it responds "December 18th, 2009". Stuff like that.

Oh... and a Roomba. :)

The "Carousel of Progress" is a great idea and I think instead of keeping this one as is for Walt's sake, I think he would want the future scene to always be updated and looking forward. Sorry for the long winded post. :wave:
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Wow! I love those ideas! Very forward thinking.
 
imagineer boy

imagineer boy

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If they ever do a major refurb to CoP, I think they also need to rethink some of the earlier scenes. The problem is that it starts at the turn of the century, 1930s/40s, 1950s, then it makes HUGE jump to the not-too-distant future. That's a half-a-century jump! I think the scenes need to be remade to like this:

Turn of the century, 1950s, late 80 or early 90s, then not-too-distant future.
 

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