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Isle of Disney - Magic Kingdom
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stitchcastle
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Well...we can always just "combine" all those themes for the treehouse.......
I have a Fire Mountain Story where A Bunch of scientists try to uncover a lost city and unwittingly find themselves inside an active volcano instead...i like the angry God thing though.
I have a Fire Mountain Story where A Bunch of scientists try to uncover a lost city and unwittingly find themselves inside an active volcano instead...i like the angry God thing though.
A waterfall coming from a volcano? Not very realistic 
And Walt, I just don't think in ANY way that Aladdin fits AL...
But so far we have decided on:
- Fire Mountain (we need to find out the initial concept of this ride)
- Pirates of the Carribean (same goes for this)¨
- Jungle Cruise (new, longer and more varied ride... I vote for several routes that will make you come back)
- Some kind of playground etc. island
Still need more than that though... should we still have the temple?
And Walt, I just don't think in ANY way that Aladdin fits AL...
But so far we have decided on:
- Fire Mountain (we need to find out the initial concept of this ride)
- Pirates of the Carribean (same goes for this)¨
- Jungle Cruise (new, longer and more varied ride... I vote for several routes that will make you come back)
- Some kind of playground etc. island
Still need more than that though... should we still have the temple?
stitchcastle
Well-Known Member
I have a suggestion, way back when I was designing my own MK I had a vision of having all the lands have "towering structures" for entrances, sort of like castles for all the lands. Fantasyland has the Castle, Adventureland has the Temple, Frontierland has a big Mansion, Tomorrowland will have a huge Crystal castle/tower, Toontown has a giant City Hall...just a suggestion.
I'm noit usre if waterfalls and volcanoes mesh well together.
I'm noit usre if waterfalls and volcanoes mesh well together.
stitchcastle said:
While I do think some sort of structure marking the entrance wouldn't be half-bad, I don't think we should go for towering structures. The placement of these should be in the back and have the that appealing function, drawing the crowds nearer.
I imagined that for the entrance of Frontierland we should have a Fort...
I don't think we should go for any specific entrance structure for TL, as the open view into the area is very appealing in itself because of it's kinetic power.
As for Adventureland, I'm unsure... perhaps if we could find a good idea for a structure that's subtle, yet marks the transition well, I think it could work...
ImaginEAR
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I was thinking of "sub-lands" for Adventureland, here's what I thought of.
-Agrabah (Bazaar, Magic Carpets, etc.)
-Tiki Area (Enchanted Tiki Rooms, Tiki Juice Bar, 1 more attraction, and a water playground for the little ones)
-Moku O ke Ahi Mauna (Fire Mountain, Tree House, 1 more attraction)
-Caribbean Plaza (Pirates of the Caribbean, River Boats to Adventure Isle, 1 more attraction)
-Adventure Isle (Jolly Rodger, Skull Rock, Hidden Treasure Caves, River Boats to Caribbean Plaza, 1 more attraction)
-Hidden Jungle (Jungle Cruise, themed Aquatopia with new boats and a squirting cannon)
These attractions I have suggested would be about 13 attractions. (Adventure Isle counts as 1 attraction as a whole)
-Agrabah (Bazaar, Magic Carpets, etc.)
-Tiki Area (Enchanted Tiki Rooms, Tiki Juice Bar, 1 more attraction, and a water playground for the little ones)
-Moku O ke Ahi Mauna (Fire Mountain, Tree House, 1 more attraction)
-Caribbean Plaza (Pirates of the Caribbean, River Boats to Adventure Isle, 1 more attraction)
-Adventure Isle (Jolly Rodger, Skull Rock, Hidden Treasure Caves, River Boats to Caribbean Plaza, 1 more attraction)
-Hidden Jungle (Jungle Cruise, themed Aquatopia with new boats and a squirting cannon)
These attractions I have suggested would be about 13 attractions. (Adventure Isle counts as 1 attraction as a whole)
ImaginEAR said:
Agrabah is basically set for DisneySea for me with the Arabian Coast...
Tiki Area is basically a polynesian area, right?
Adventure Island and the treeehouse and the water playground should be combined (multi-island area), and the island should be accessable without the usage of boats...
Hidden Jungle could also feature the temple as well as Fire Mountain...
Carribean Plaza sounds good...
Ok, I'll try to make a frist draft of the AL list to get us moving, based on the ideas that everyone has given and that we seem to agree on. Some of the ride content I'll make up myself, so oppose by any means if you disagree:
Hidden Jungle:
The largest and most populated part of Adventureland will take guests deep within a mysterious and dense jungle, where they will such attractions as:
Fire Mountain - As the new icon of Adventureland, Fire Mountain features a living, breathing volcano exhausting both fire and smoke (sfx). The volcano will contain the most thrilling and nerve-wrecking ride of the Magic Kingdom with a semi-intense rollercoaster (equivilant in thrill-factor of DLPs Space Mountain, though without inversions). The rollercoaster will pack an intense and high-speed jungle trace, a powered launch up the valcona and a steep drop down through the magma-spitting giant.
Ancient Temple (name to be decided): Deep within the mysterious jungle of Adventureland lies a forgotten temple of the past, uncovered for the very first time by modern civilisation. Inside the mysterious temple is a state-of-the-art thrilling ride based on the renown EMV technology. Boasting quick accelerations, twist, turns and bumps as well as the newest special effects, the ride reach a new height of combining action with storytelling.
Jungle Cruise: Another Disney classic returning to Adventureland, but in a much enhanced version. Featuring three different tours of the adventurland canals, guests can choose to their own liking and experience three different, yet very exciting guided tours. Featuring even more and technological superior AA animals, the guests experience both the horrifying and more friendly animals at a closer and more personalized range. The new version also features indoor parts through naturally sculpted caves.
Shops and dining: This area will a two shopping stores attached to the two main rides and no dining places (only drink and snack stands).
Carribean Plaza:
Themed to the Carribean style of New Orleans, the Carribean Plaza will ooze with atmosphere and feature and broad array of shops and dining options.
Pirates of the Carribean: The world-known Disney classic returns in a new and better edition (content to be decided... what is the notion on this?).
Jack Sparrow's Stunt Show (name to be determined): This live action stunt show is based on the popular Disney movie and will feature intense pirat duels, plenty of explosions and a lot of humor.
Shops and Dining: A large Carribean bazaar area will hold several shops and restaurant will also be in this area.
Tropical Bay:
This Polynesian and Hawaii inspired area will provide guests with a calmer and relaxing atmosphere.
The Enchanted Tiki Room: The very first AA attraction of Disneyland now returns to excel the progress made in robotics technology since the early use. The new, original show, also featuring some of the belowed Disney birds (or what?), provides an unparalleled realism, astonishment and, of course, fun.
Adventure Island: This huge, multi-island play area relives some of the greatest Disney moments.
Hidden Jungle:
The largest and most populated part of Adventureland will take guests deep within a mysterious and dense jungle, where they will such attractions as:
Fire Mountain - As the new icon of Adventureland, Fire Mountain features a living, breathing volcano exhausting both fire and smoke (sfx). The volcano will contain the most thrilling and nerve-wrecking ride of the Magic Kingdom with a semi-intense rollercoaster (equivilant in thrill-factor of DLPs Space Mountain, though without inversions). The rollercoaster will pack an intense and high-speed jungle trace, a powered launch up the valcona and a steep drop down through the magma-spitting giant.
Ancient Temple (name to be decided): Deep within the mysterious jungle of Adventureland lies a forgotten temple of the past, uncovered for the very first time by modern civilisation. Inside the mysterious temple is a state-of-the-art thrilling ride based on the renown EMV technology. Boasting quick accelerations, twist, turns and bumps as well as the newest special effects, the ride reach a new height of combining action with storytelling.
Jungle Cruise: Another Disney classic returning to Adventureland, but in a much enhanced version. Featuring three different tours of the adventurland canals, guests can choose to their own liking and experience three different, yet very exciting guided tours. Featuring even more and technological superior AA animals, the guests experience both the horrifying and more friendly animals at a closer and more personalized range. The new version also features indoor parts through naturally sculpted caves.
Shops and dining: This area will a two shopping stores attached to the two main rides and no dining places (only drink and snack stands).
Carribean Plaza:
Themed to the Carribean style of New Orleans, the Carribean Plaza will ooze with atmosphere and feature and broad array of shops and dining options.
Pirates of the Carribean: The world-known Disney classic returns in a new and better edition (content to be decided... what is the notion on this?).
Jack Sparrow's Stunt Show (name to be determined): This live action stunt show is based on the popular Disney movie and will feature intense pirat duels, plenty of explosions and a lot of humor.
Shops and Dining: A large Carribean bazaar area will hold several shops and restaurant will also be in this area.
Tropical Bay:
This Polynesian and Hawaii inspired area will provide guests with a calmer and relaxing atmosphere.
The Enchanted Tiki Room: The very first AA attraction of Disneyland now returns to excel the progress made in robotics technology since the early use. The new, original show, also featuring some of the belowed Disney birds (or what?), provides an unparalleled realism, astonishment and, of course, fun.
Adventure Island: This huge, multi-island play area relives some of the greatest Disney moments.
- Featuring the Shipwreck Treehouse (name to be changed), guests climb up an enourmous tree, where a tsunami washed a ship onto and the crew have been stuck here ever since, being forced to utilized the different parts of the ships to fit their new setting.
- Captain Hook's Jolly Rodger
- Skullrock Cave
- Mermaid Lagoon
Hmm, I can see why you'd want the Stunt show for Studios, but what other attraction would you want in that area? I mean, a pirates stunt show could be awesome and it would fit well in with the theme... whereas the show could be more difficult to place in Studios...
And for POTC, I think we should make a new ride and not clone it...
For the Tiki room, I would want those birds I think. What's the notion on this?
And perhaps we should get rid of mermaid lagoon, it might be too non-adventurish...
And for POTC, I think we should make a new ride and not clone it...
For the Tiki room, I would want those birds I think. What's the notion on this?
And perhaps we should get rid of mermaid lagoon, it might be too non-adventurish...
Wannabe Walt
New Member
I agree with ImaginEAR
Zazu and Iago are in Under New Management at WDW...that show is aweful. Iago makes it the worst I think. Zazu isn't THAT bad, but I think we should stick to non-movie birds.
ImaginEAR
New Member
NeXuS1000 said:
It could be, but a Stunt Show which goes behind the scenes doesn't really work for a Magical Kingdom where people (ah.. kids) think that this stuff is real...
How can we have a new Pirates and no clones? NONE at all?
Nooo... Character Overlays are horrible (not all, but... good shows made into cheap character overlays). I mean, look at a show like "Stitch's Great Escape" Remember the Alien Encounter? A good unique show with no characters from animated features. Then along comes Stitch and RUINS the previouse show. That's what we CAN'T have in the Tiki Room, one of Walt's Classics!
Good! Maybe we can save it for this "Neverland" park I found in the old thread?
ImaginEAR said:
Doesn't need to be behind the scenes, just more raw action and fun...
ImaginEAR said:
No, I'm just saying we could try to rethink the ride, change the layout and the storyline to our likings etc.
ImaginEAR said:
Although I wouldn't say it's the same situation as with Stitch, you do make a valid point...
ImaginEAR said:
Naa, Neverland was more meant to be an bit more "adult", more thrilling park (for the adults who never quite leave their childhood)...
stitchcastle
Well-Known Member
Neverland could be a great theme park, the entrance could be a recreation of london, it's fantasyland could be mermaid lagoon, there's pirate's cove and Skull rock, Indian village, the treeshouse. a lot could be done for a Neverland theme park you could even add in elements from the extended anime version with the black mirror storyline and the new book Peter and the star catchers even the cheapquel return to neverland. It doesn't have to be an adult park, it has a lot of appeal to make it really mainstream.
Character Overlays should stay in Toontown and Fantasyland exceptions to this rule are only applicable to classics like Splash Mountain and characters absolutely necessary for the area like Jungle Book, Tarzan and The Lion King for Adventureland and believe it or not, Stitch and Buzz for Tomorrowland (That's the cold hard truth folks...) To sme extent Pocahontas and Home on the Range and Woody for Frontierland. Unless it is really really required for the attraction there should be as little character overlays as possible.
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Character Overlays should stay in Toontown and Fantasyland exceptions to this rule are only applicable to classics like Splash Mountain and characters absolutely necessary for the area like Jungle Book, Tarzan and The Lion King for Adventureland and believe it or not, Stitch and Buzz for Tomorrowland (That's the cold hard truth folks...) To sme extent Pocahontas and Home on the Range and Woody for Frontierland. Unless it is really really required for the attraction there should be as little character overlays as possible.
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stitchcastle
Well-Known Member
Fire Mountain
Professor E. Challenger takes guests and his crew deep underground in the search for the lost city of atlantis (there is a "slight" character overlay with the appearance of Kida but this will be done in a more realistic way which shouldn't be too hard since the movie itself is more realistic than cartoony)
The rowdy crew (who will provide hilarious commentary through most of our journey) includes:
Mulch Diggums - A Dwarf who is an expert with thes tudy of rocks nad can dig through anything with his out of this world machines. he's also a bit of a thief and quite a witty jokester.
Xavier Pleuschion - Detonation expert and aspriring actor.
Bunifah "Boomie" Hudson - A trigger happy diva
William Teller - An inventor and mechanics expert who thinks he's a prophet.
Domovoi Butler - Personal Bodyguard to Proffesor challenger.
Unfortunately, Proffesor Challenger is not alone in his quest to find the lost city. Corporate Juggernaut Wolfram and Eisler has sent their own team of mercenaries led by scientist Opal Koboi to intercept Challenger and his team.
Ok Fire Mountain the ride will be an incredibly advanced ride that alternates between not 2 but 3 ride systems. Starting out with the dry for wet technology of TDS' 20k for the initial descent to the ocean floor along the Adventure Island bay. (Where we encounter a mechanical giant squid)
As soon as we "drill" through the sea floor, the ride changes and our vehicle becomes a coaster-like EMV where we "follow the signs" to the ancient city itself. (of course one more bad thing happens and we encounter giant lava apes who try to kill us again)
After that we finally get to the entrance and a glimpse of Atlantis and we meet Kida, princess of the lost city, But then , something bad happens, Opal Koboi has followed us through our journey and is threatening to rob the city for their own gain. As a final defense mechanism the ancient city itself re-ignites the long extinct volcano, the Fire Mountain. and with the help of our in-crew inventor our EMV turns into a floorless coaster having us soar to safety as the volcano erupts.
Professor E. Challenger takes guests and his crew deep underground in the search for the lost city of atlantis (there is a "slight" character overlay with the appearance of Kida but this will be done in a more realistic way which shouldn't be too hard since the movie itself is more realistic than cartoony)
The rowdy crew (who will provide hilarious commentary through most of our journey) includes:
Mulch Diggums - A Dwarf who is an expert with thes tudy of rocks nad can dig through anything with his out of this world machines. he's also a bit of a thief and quite a witty jokester.
Xavier Pleuschion - Detonation expert and aspriring actor.
Bunifah "Boomie" Hudson - A trigger happy diva
William Teller - An inventor and mechanics expert who thinks he's a prophet.
Domovoi Butler - Personal Bodyguard to Proffesor challenger.
Unfortunately, Proffesor Challenger is not alone in his quest to find the lost city. Corporate Juggernaut Wolfram and Eisler has sent their own team of mercenaries led by scientist Opal Koboi to intercept Challenger and his team.
Ok Fire Mountain the ride will be an incredibly advanced ride that alternates between not 2 but 3 ride systems. Starting out with the dry for wet technology of TDS' 20k for the initial descent to the ocean floor along the Adventure Island bay. (Where we encounter a mechanical giant squid)
As soon as we "drill" through the sea floor, the ride changes and our vehicle becomes a coaster-like EMV where we "follow the signs" to the ancient city itself. (of course one more bad thing happens and we encounter giant lava apes who try to kill us again)
After that we finally get to the entrance and a glimpse of Atlantis and we meet Kida, princess of the lost city, But then , something bad happens, Opal Koboi has followed us through our journey and is threatening to rob the city for their own gain. As a final defense mechanism the ancient city itself re-ignites the long extinct volcano, the Fire Mountain. and with the help of our in-crew inventor our EMV turns into a floorless coaster having us soar to safety as the volcano erupts.
Hmm, I don't think it should be about Atlantis... again, that would be MUCH more appropriate for DisneySea that have an entire region called The Lost Atlantis...
Besides I also think that Fire Mountain should be a regular rollercoaster type, and then the Ancient Temple could sort of have the more experimenting ride types...
Besides I also think that Fire Mountain should be a regular rollercoaster type, and then the Ancient Temple could sort of have the more experimenting ride types...
stitchcastle said:
I dunno... but hey, we don't need to decide on that now...
stitchcastle said:
I agree, but I still believe we should to some degree utilize the deep disney universe presented in many of the comics, where I mostly mean the Duck universe. It doesn't mean it will be too cartoonish/childish and unfit to the overall area theme. And of course it shouldn't be overdone... but something like Fort Duckburg and Scrooge's days as a gold hunter in Klondike is to me ideal for Frontierland... remember that this universe was created by Carl Barks, who were actually able to keep it at very somewhat mature level (or at least fit for all ages)
stitchcastle
Well-Known Member
Actually I want to make an entire land based on the duck universe, seems like a better choice than Toontown.
stitchcastle said:
Yes, but do remember the timespan of the duck universe. The old days in klondike is IMO not fit for Toontown, but for Frontierland... of course, the current Duckburg is very fit for Toontown...
But anyways, can we decide on an attraction list for AL? And we also need some shopping and dining ideas...
The proposed list has 3 sublands: hidden jungle, carribean plaza and tropical bay, and the attraction list is made of Fire Mountain, Ancient Temple, Jungle Cruise, POTC, Pirates Live action show, Tiki Room and the multi-island Adventure Island...
How about something like Tarzan's jungle swing? Would that round off the attraction list pretty nicely?
stitchcastle said:
Names without a doubt have to be changed. DOmovoi Butler, Opal Koboi, and Mulch Diggums... cmon. You are not the only person who reads Artemis Fowl. The idea is good but If you wanna go all Artemis Fowl the change all the names to it but I thinks its kinda copyright using those names. If I really think about it would be a great ride but its just not Disney and defiently not AL.
Instead a ride for Neverland would fit here with a simulator or possibly an actual roller coaster about the transport to the surface in the books.