stitchcastle said:
I don't think I'm alone here but shouldn't we keep MainStreet U.S.A. as "authentic" as possible? I mean having The vharacters of TaleSpin represented just cmpletely ruins this. I believe that all animated characters should, as much as possible, be confined only to Toontown and Fantasyland. This includes the store names if we are to truly take Mainstreet seriously. I also believe Mary Poppins is more suited to Fantasyland than Mainstreet U.S.A.
I feel your notion about Main Street without toon characters, but I seriously feel that the place needs an E- or D-ticket ride... suggestions?
I don't think Mary Poppins fits into FL though, as the movie character of this franchise makes it suitable for Main Street...
stitchcastle said:
Once again, Ducktales should be kept out of lands other than Toontown unless they have a big adventure-based attraction dedicated to them. I'm gonna be posting a story that would tie in all the attractions here in Adventureland. by the way, I think it would suit the place more if the African Dance show was changed into something more kid-friendly, FotLK perhaps?
DuckTales is not in AL, don't worry, only in Toontown
And the African Dance show was only meant as a dining show, but I think it should be taken out...
stitchcastle said:
Fort Duckburg.....'nuff said. Anyway, we're gonna need more "new" attractions if we're going to re-invent this. I like the idea of a cafe in the riverboat.
Well, Fort Duckburg is the name of the fort where Duckville was originally founded. I think it could suit Frontierland very well, bringing in a lot of Frontier atmosphere Disney-style...
Have any ideas for "new" attractions???
stitchcastle said:
I think the whole Nightmare Before Christmas thing should be a bit more seasonal than year-round. and the fairy-tale based dark rides should stay at Fantasyland. the Haunted Mansion would be dwarfed by all the other "scarier" attractions put it in a more realistic locale. We should figure what is the real over-all theme of this land because the attractions are all so polarized and not exactly in synch with each other.
Well, of course the Haunted Mansion will stand out alongside Bald Mountain. But I do believe the rides could be very much in synch if executed well...
Oh and BTW, I plan for the Haunted Mansion to be something completely new... don't forget these are just concept names really... doesn't mean the ride won't be new
stitchcastle said:
I believe Fantasyland should be the focal point of all Magic Kingdoms and having less attractions than MainStreet does not a focal point make. Bring back the classic dark rides, create mini-lands dedicated to other classics.
Fantasmic! and Philharmagic cancels each other out nevermind that one is a ride and another a show. I believe Fantasmic! must be shown in its full glory.
Most of Main Streets "attractions" are merely exhibits. It will really only have one ride and the rest will be movies, shows and exhibits. Fantasyland will still be the focal point with the most attractions.
And Fantasmic!... well, remember we are trying something new here. The name may only be tentative, but the overall concept of this ride is the ultimate battle between good and evil, DIsney-style, as is done in the Fantasmic live show (and not in Philharmagic AT ALL). So they are very differnet concepts and I want the castle ride to be the most important, epic, extravagant and mind-blowing ride of whole Fantasyland...
stitchcastle said:
Too much dining for such a kid-friendly area. How does the Lost Lamp fit in such an "urban" setting?
Too much dining? Hmm, well the lemonade stand and cookie jar are snacks, minnie's kitchen is fast food, House of Mouse the only "real" restaurant and Gus Goose will be sandwiches I think... nothing big...
And the DuckTales ride content is still undecided. The Treasure of the Lost Lamp is the name of the DuckTales movie, that was made, and since I want an original script, this won't be the name
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But DuckTales is very much based on Scrooge's adventerous (sp?) side.
stitchcastle said:
Needs more attractions, I have an idea witht he 3d show, why not combine Figment, Flubber and HISTA? ...wait a minute, Don't these shows take away from the whole "future" setting? If the Isle of Disney has an EPCOT or Studios Flubber 3d belongs there more than it does in Tomorrowland.
Isle of Disney will have both a Studios (phase II) and Epcot (phase III), but I think Flubber is perfect for Tomorrowland because it has this wacky, future-that-never-was-and-never-will-be style over it. HISTA have a sense of reality at least or at least seems more real...
stitchcastle said:
Over-all, i REALLY think we ought to focus more on the attractions before the shops and dining because it seems this MK is paying more attention to them than the attractions themselves. We should first brainstorm about how to truly re-invent and deviate from the norm without looking too childish by the quality and quantity of the attractions because the attractions are what put the magic in a magic kingdom.
I'm gonna look for reactions before I post my "modifications" and attraction suggestions so I know if you all hate me or not.
I've tried to do this brainstorming in the whole other thread, so where were you
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But of course rides comes first, shops and dining is not nearly as important, not at all...
My concept for this Magic Kingdom was:
1) To utilize some of the classic, maybe not well-used, but very deep Disney franchises (such as the whole Duck universe, which has a great universe behind it)
2) Create new and original franchises...
What I didn't want was only to emphasize on the never, maybe less succesful and less memorable Disney movies...
And for the different areas:
Main Street:
Here I wanted to keep the authentic classic style, but definitly make the area bigger and more useful. Especially exhibits (automobiles, airplanes) and shows/movies could be well fitted in Main Street, and then also one big ride to draw crowds.
Adventureland:
This area I thought should be based on the following styles/concepts:
- Carribean
- Polynesian
- Tropical
And to a certain degree African, Mexican and South American.
What I also wanted was a big landmark (now Fire Mountain) and keep things very true to it's original style (ie. no Aladdin). Adventure Island is a little out of this category, I know, but that is also why it will be sort of isolated from the main area since it's on an island.
Frontierland:
I wanted a lot more Disney franchise in Frontierland, which is why I added both Fort Duckburg (I do believe a Fort is a must) and Gold Fever, while still keep it's original style intact. I also wanted to give it's main ride, BTMR, more character, or spirit.
Shadowland:
A darker, yet still very fun side of Magic Kingdom. Home to the Haunted Mansion and it's happy haunts, this area should also feature both some of the more clumsy and more evil villains of disney stories. The overall style of the area should follow the classic, abadoned ghost town style, following the current style of WDW's HM a lot.
Fantasyland:
My intent for this area was to give it a lot more magic by making more sections, where you can truly live into the spirit of the greatest disney classics. Such an area will be the castle courtyard.
Toontown:
My first goal of TT was to give it even more attractions, also for the little bigger audience (of course still enjoyable by the smallest ones). Also I wanted the area to feel a lot "bigger" than the current examples, so it litterally would feel like an entire toon city and not just a couple of buildings... this should be done by adding more passages...
Tomorrowland:
The tomorrow that never was should be the main theme of this area, giving it a lot of energy and kinetic power by motion and powerful colors everywhere in this area. I also wanted to add some great Disney franchises to this area (ie. Gyro Gearloose).
That was, in very short, my intentions for each of the areas. Of course I could write a lot more, but my time right now is limited... but stitch, let me hear your intentions and ideas?