SuddenStorm
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A great example of the point you're trying to make is in Indy, when your jeep stalls and takes a sec to start back up.
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Is Walt Disney Imagineering dead?
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A great example of the point you're trying to make is in Indy, when your jeep stalls and takes a sec to start back up.
SuddenStorm
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The question I ask myself is
"Could today's Imagineers recreate a ride likethe Haunted Mansion?"- a unique take on a "dark ride" that relied on loads of practical effects, animatronics, illusions, as well as a phenomenal original score and excellent narration.
And, the answer is no.
"Could today's Imagineers recreate a ride likethe Haunted Mansion?"- a unique take on a "dark ride" that relied on loads of practical effects, animatronics, illusions, as well as a phenomenal original score and excellent narration.
And, the answer is no.
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Disney Irish
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There are all different type of ride vehicles. The ride vehicle is nothing more than a device that takes you into the story. How that story is told is up to the designer of the attraction. There is no rule that says every ride vehicle on every attraction has to stay moving constantly. There can be stops and pauses all depending on the story being told.
dweezil78
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Disney Irish
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Which begs the question, would we even want them to. No, because I would hope they would have learned and progressed beyond technology from 1969.
What's this now?
I was making a remark about replacing show scenes with large movie screens on rides. If my problem was actual movies in theme parks, I'd have included Muppet Vision 3D and It's Tough to be a Bug.
I'll take Haunted Mansion with its dated technology over N'avi River Journey any day. Fifty out of date animatronics will forever be superior to one incredibly state of the art figure.
dweezil78
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I don't have the energy to get into this debate again.
Californian Elitist
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I’d take Mansion over literally every ride that has come out recently that I've experienced.
Disney Irish
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To each their own, which makes the parks so popular. Something for everyone. You enjoy what you do and others enjoy what they do.
Until what I enjoy is trampled on and replaced, of course, because of lower standards by those who don't view theme parks as an art form and just a place to have fun with nothing more to offer.
7DMT and Grimgott's stop for scenes. I don't know anyone but you with your arbitrary criteria that wouldn't call them rides.
Disney Irish
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However its those same standards that are subjective. A person who finds the new Marvel attractions more exciting than HM is no more or less valid of a guest than you.
7DMT does not stop for scenes. Unless you mean the end of the coaster when you're pulling into the unloading area. That's no different than a log jam on Splash Mountain. The ride slows down, but never stops.
As for Gringott's, you must be joking if you think I have any respect for that attraction or almost any of Universal's latest screen based attractions.
It slows down for two scenes and often stops there because of the block brakes.
And I frankly don't care what you have respect for. Especially since you apply willy-nilly restrictions on accepted social constructs.
Someone who enjoys the Transformers movies over The Searchers (1956) is no more or less valid of a movie goer than I. Except they are.
When it stops due to block brakes, that's not a creative decision, it's because the ride is over. It's completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
Such as?
SuddenStorm
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Would I want the Imagineers to develop a new and original dark ride? With original memorable music? And practical, physical effects with the technology today (not sure why you think I'd want them to be limited to 1960s technology)?
Yes. Yes I would. It'd be amazing.
Old Mouseketeer
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Absolutely disagree. Much has been written about how the Pirates are comically exaggerated and brilliantly so. The body types, the facial shapes and expressions, and the costuming is pumped up to be easily "read" visually and fit the story. Compare the figures in Pirates with the Hall of Presidents. The range of types is much wider in PotC. Yes, Lord Mystic is even more exaggerated. I suspect this had to do with what was considered for their audence.
And Jungle Cruise doesn't even compare. That was 1955 and the figures are not even AA.
Californian Elitist
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EXACTLY.
180º
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I feel like you’re missing my point. Yes, the pirates are brilliantly stylized. I think you’d agree that they are part of a more realistic aesthetic, in the same way that the film Lady and the Tramp is more realistically styled than Toot, Whistle, Plunk, and Boom. Both films were 100% designed from the ground up, one no more than the other, but styled in their own unique ways.
This point has little to do with artistic style. I was also specific in my post about Marc Davis’ work on the Jungle Cruise, which is distinct from the existing 1955 material.
denyuntilcaught
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Hey all, new member here, but have been lurking for the past decade or so, so hello!
I hate to make this my first post, but I just want to say that just because you put your foot down and present opinion as fact doesn't mean that it is, indeed, fact. How is having a ride vehicle stopping an example of WDI being incapable of telling a story? What if the story calls for the vehicle to stop?