Is this really a service dog?

macefamily

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During our last trip to Disney, we flew out of the Philly airport. I noticed this older woman going through security with what appeared to be a pit bull mix that was muzzled and had a bright orange SERVICE ANIMAL harness on. I found it odd that the dog was pulling her along because service animals are usually very calm and relaxed. We ran into her later across from our gate. She was standing at a bar with a pint of beer and the dog at her side. A woman with a much smaller dog came walking along from one of the planes that just landed. Well, that "service dog" almost ripped the woman's arm out of the socket when it saw the smaller dog. It was growling and clawing to get at that other dog. The woman's beer smashed on the ground and the big dog urinated right in the middle of the walkway. Do people really think we're all that stupid ? They buy a $15 harness on Ebay and figure that they're covered to take their dog anywhere.
Last year on the Wildwood boardwalk there was a younger woman pushing a pug puppy in a small stroller. We have a pug so we gushed over it. The dog was wearing a "Service Dog" harness. My daughter asked if she could pet the dog and the girl said "yes." Right then, I knew it wasn't a service animal. Service dog's are not to be touched by strangers. What a racket.
 

John park hopper

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There are many who need a real service dog unfortunately there are many many who do not and abuse what was supposed to be a good program. The whole service dog program needs to be reviewed and strict guidelines and laws put into place (at the federal , state or local level) in order to stop this abuse. I would think people who need service dogs would be fully supportive of this.
 

Pooh.sHoneyHuntTDL

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During our last trip to Disney, we flew out of the Philly airport. I noticed this older woman going through security with what appeared to be a pit bull mix that was muzzled and had a bright orange SERVICE ANIMAL harness on. I found it odd that the dog was pulling her along because service animals are usually very calm and relaxed. We ran into her later across from our gate. She was standing at a bar with a pint of beer and the dog at her side. A woman with a much smaller dog came walking along from one of the planes that just landed. Well, that "service dog" almost ripped the woman's arm out of the socket when it saw the smaller dog. It was growling and clawing to get at that other dog. The woman's beer smashed on the ground and the big dog urinated right in the middle of the walkway. Do people really think we're all that stupid ? They buy a $15 harness on Ebay and figure that they're covered to take their dog anywhere.
Last year on the Wildwood boardwalk there was a younger woman pushing a pug puppy in a small stroller. We have a pug so we gushed over it. The dog was wearing a "Service Dog" harness. My daughter asked if she could pet the dog and the girl said "yes." Right then, I knew it wasn't a service animal. Service dog's are not to be touched by strangers. What a racket.
The abuse is out of control. Saw some man at MCO with his "service" dog who was barking all over the place. He finally had to give it food to quite it down. They need to lock up these fraudsters. It's not fair to the people who really need service dogs.
 

Animaniac93-98

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The abuse is out of control. Saw some man at MCO with his "service" dog who was barking all over the place. He finally had to give it food to quite it down. They need to lock up these fraudsters. It's not fair to the people who really need service dogs.
Not to mention dangerous. Could you imagine if your child or one of your relatives was bit by one of these "service dogs"?
 

Tanna Eros

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I agree about children not being well behaved. However, dogs should just be left at home, with friends/family or in a dog hotel while people are on vacation. Leaving dogs in a hotel room for 7 hours or even longer at a Disney World resort is an issue. They're in a strange place away from home and what they're used to. Also not seeing their owner(s) for a long day every day (while they're in a strange place) can get any dog (even trained dogs) restless and anxious.

I mean if I was paying $100 a night for 1 or 2 nights in a hotel and there were dogs, meh...I wouldn't take much issue.

But when I'm paying upwards of $7000-10,000 for a vacation, I don't want to hear or smell a dog at the resort, and I certainly don't want to have to watch where I step. If Disney enforced the rules, I'd be partially ok with it, but they don't.
And as a dog owner, I don't want my dog eating any old thing on the ground, left in a room for a long period of time, and be in a strange situation. As I recall, there's a dog boarding service close to WDW, but I'd go so far is that I don't want him in a strange pet sitters, with strange dogs.
In my experience, boarding them at a good kennel, at home, before you vacation is worth a million bucks. I'm biased because I take him to the people from whence he came, but anyone who has had to deal with a dog in new surroundings and long waits/drives, unusual dinner times and unexpected obstacles understands how much better it is to FaceTime their pet on vacation than to deal with the unfamiliarity of your pet in a strange place, surrounded by strange people.
 

thomas998

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Why out of interest? How does it impact you personally?
Having fake dogs running around the beach area is a problem for everyone. Much higher odds that the fake dog is going to do its business right there in the sand and then the owner isn't going to clean it up. Then of course there is the risk of the dog biting someone, a real service dog is extremely unlikely to bite someone, but not so when its a fake dog that someone just stuck a twenty dollar vest on that they bought off Amazon.
 

EOD K9

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The abuse is out of control. Saw some man at MCO with his "service" dog who was barking all over the place. He finally had to give it food to quite it down. They need to lock up these fraudsters. It's not fair to the people who really need service dogs.
You know how people run around on “Stolen Valor” videos and screaming Stolen Valor?.....can we come up with something similar? I’m ok with yelling “Fraud” at people.
 

Lilofan

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Under the ADA, it is illegal to use a fake service dog. It is also a federal crime. Some states like CA and NJ, have penalties like fines and/or jail time.
 

jaklgreen

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Flight to MCO last night, sat next to some perfectly healthy woman in her low 30s with her service greyhound on the plane. Purely an ESA, as she told the boarding agent as such. It proceeded to bark and lunge at any kid who walked by - adults were fine. Obviously a trained professional. :rolleyes:
It is shocking that the flight attendants did not remove this animal. If that dog lunged at my child, I sure as heck would be talking to them about it. What if she was walking down the isle to go to the bathroom with this dog and it bit a child. I don't understand what is wrong with the brain of these people. It is obvious selfishness on their part. Not only can they harm someone, their dog can then be euthanized as a dangerous animal. Anyone who loves their animals, does not put them in that situation.
 

CAV

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It could quite possible be a Emotional Support Service Dog.
No such thing.

There are Service Animals. They can be dogs and miniature horses, per the ADA. Miniature horses are qualified because they live about three times as long as a dog (35 years) and can do many of the same tasks. They have to perform specific tasks.

Then there are Emotional Support Animals. They don't have to perform any specific tasks. They are only allowed on planes under the Air Carrier Access Act.
 

RobWDW1971

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Under the ADA, it is illegal to use a fake service dog. It is also a federal crime. Some states like CA and NJ, have penalties like fines and/or jail time.
And in CA it is even more outrageous - it is now against the law for apartment owners/landlords to charge a monthly pet fee for a "service/comfort animal". No need to tell you that once people found this out instantly entire apartment buildings became full of "service animals" overnight, leaving the landlords to foot the bill for the damage the animals do. Once again virtue signaling legislatures never pause for a second to actually consider the impact of their laws.
 

Smiley/OCD

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Under the ADA, it is illegal to use a fake service dog. It is also a federal crime. Some states like CA and NJ, have penalties like fines and/or jail time.
In NJ, no one that I'm aware of has ever been fined let alone jailed for having a fake service animal. We need licences to drive, get married, buy a gun, now it's time to have a UNIVERSAL service, support animal. They should be registered and licensed by an independent agency that is accredited and is deemed acceptable by a federal agency. Until the federal policy is changed, this problem will never be solved. If I need a permit to cut down a tree on my property, I should have to obtain a permit/license for my service animal. For the honest people that truly need one, I'm sorry, but as usual, the bad ones ruin it for everyone else.
 
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