Is Disney World Safe

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Were they obtained legally by the owners, or by the perpetrators? There's a huge difference. In this case, the guns were TAKEN from his mother's possession following her death.

I believe is was by the perpetrator but can't remember exactly. I heard it on CNN so it wasn't on for long.

 

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I hate to get political and it usually just leads to people being angry, so I'll refrain from further posting.

 

[I_heart_Tigger]

I agree. I think there needs to be more education, I took a hunter safety's coarse and there are other gun safety classes available. Instead of limited availability I think there needs to be mandatory safety classes

well...i think limited availibilty would help too but I definitely agree on the safety classes. Believe it or not I actually grew up with guns in the house. I live in the woods in Canada....really in the woods. My favourite days were when we got up to find bears in the yard and my Mom would drive us to the bus stop.

My Dad was the only one who ever touched the gun, it was used for hunting. It was kept in a locked cabinet, separate from ammunition and he required a safety licence to use it. I grew up respecting guns and the people that use them. I don't find it necessary to carry it everywhere but...again...that is because I'm in a country with 100 or so gun deaths a year as opposed to 20,000. Maybe a case of which came first? The gun laws or the gunshot victims.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I don't find it necessary to carry it everywhere but...again...that is because I'm in a country with 100 or so gun deaths a year as opposed to 20,000. Maybe a case of which came first? The gun laws or the gunshot victims.

We live in a country with 1/10th the population size, so that skews the numbers a bit, though it's still proportionally higher.

 

[I_heart_Tigger]

...and I'm sorry to take the thread so off track. Like I said, no one will change my mind and I'm sure I won't change anyone elses. I would have no problem if WDW decided to pass stricter entrance methods to deter people with weapons entering the park.

I guess until that time I will hope that all the pixie dust will protect everyone who enters the gates.

 

[Taylor]

I hate to get political and it usually just leads to people being angry, so I'll refrain from further posting.

No one has gotten angry its just been a respectful conversation about opinions

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I'll make my final comment on this issue and say I don't disagree with owning guns, but feeling the need to carry it all the time or the thought of using it before other actions is a bit suspicious to me. Having "control" in the form of stricter access and additional education seems like a good precausion to me.

 

[disney fan 13]

well...i think limited availibilty would help too but I definitely agree on the safety classes. Believe it or not I actually grew up with guns in the house. I live in the woods in Canada....really in the woods. My favourite days were when we got up to find bears in the yard and my Mom would drive us to the bus stop.

My Dad was the only one who ever touched the gun, it was used for hunting. It was kept in a locked cabinet, separate from ammunition and he required a safety licence to use it. I grew up respecting guns and the people that use them. I don't find it necessary to carry it everywhere but...again...that is because I'm in a country with 100 or so gun deaths a year as opposed to 20,000. Maybe a case of which came first? The gun laws or the gunshot victims.

I'd say that gun laws are only one part of the puzzle, mainly because the Swiss are ranked fourth in the world for gun ownership with 46 out of every 100 people owning guns. And only 53 homicides were committed there in 2010.

 

[I_heart_Tigger]

We live in a country with 1/10th the population size, so that skews the numbers a bit, though it's still proportionally higher.

That's very true...that would skew the numbers. If I recall I think it works out to about 3 deaths per 100,000 pop in the US and 0.6 deaths per 100,000 pop in Canada. So about 5 times the gun related deaths in the States vs Canada by population.

 

[Gabe1]

Connecticut has some of the strictest laws in the country with obtaining guns.bad people will get guns no matter what

I live in N. Illinois. We cannot still carry a concealed weapon. While I don't live in Chicago you couldn't buy a gun in the City until this year. Still, Chicago is and was the murder capital and it didn't get better without the ability to purchase a gun legally.

Another way of looking at it is, if all the staff at the school was packing weapons, would someone have blown the jerk away before he killed that many innocent people? Would he even have tried if he knew every adult was packing what he was packing? Thinking that is why you don't see these creeps walk into a police station and start shooting.

 

[FettFan]

I don't understand "gun control" people at all. Do you honestly think that criminals give a crap about gun laws? We have the Castle doctrine here in Mississippi too. I don't see what that doctrine has to do with that dad shooting his son's friend. It sounds like he would have shot anyways, with an unknown(at the time) person running around his house.

I love the comparison that I saw on on my father's Facebook page. Thousands are killed each year in alcohol related accidents, but we don't ban people from driving cars. So why punish the responsible, honest gun owners because of people who are bound and intent on harming others.

Honestly, I couldn't imagine carrying in any of the parks. Just seems like too much stress about it being seen or something. Hopefully, those who do carry are at least responsible enough to not have a round chambered.

Yep. A couple of weeks ago some guy who lived near my sister actually hacked into his wife and cut out their baby.
http://www.wafb.com/story/19894707/sheriff-unborn-baby-cut-out-of-mother-husband-charged

A year ago, there was the guy who decapitated his disabled son and left the head on the street for the world to see.
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2011/08/thibodaux_man_confesses_to_dec.html

Oh and that one Katrina survivor who killed, cooked, and presumably ate some of his girlfriend.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2009/08/21/a-hurricane-katrina-murder-mystery.html

Surely we need stricter legislation of kitchen knives.

 

[luv]

I think both sides come from really good places.

Many people don't want a gun in the house because they think their kids might be harmed/killed by it. They love their kids and want to protect them.

Other people want to be prepared in the event an intruder enters the house and threatens their safety. They love their kids and want to protect them.

I have always, even as a child, felt safer knowing there were guns to protect us. I like the idea of nobody having any guns and everyone living happily ever after...but I also know it is unrealistic. The bad guys will always have guns.

I like the idea of the good guys having guns, too.

But I respect everyone's choices.

 

[FettFan]

I like the idea of the good guys having guns, too.

 

[luv]

Ruggedly handsome brainiacs who outsmart nazis to acquire supernatural treasure guys with guns, especially.

Hats a bonus.

Snake free!

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

The harsh reality is you wont/cant/are unwilling to put the gun issue back in the bottle. You just have to then accept all the consequences.

 

[draybook]

The problem with that is that guns aren't the problem. As I've said before, murder has been around since day one. From rocks in slings to katanas, people will find a way to kill other people.

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

The problem with that is that guns aren't the problem. As I've said before, murder has been around since day one. From rocks in slings to katanas, people will find a way to kill other people.

Its only the efficiency and ease that has improved.

 

[DABIGCHEEZ]

Rest assured they do at AK. I had a security officer push the back of daughters seat so hard to check the bottom she flew forward and hit her face. They check them, for sure.

Oh they do throughly check...but there is no consistency. I am sure people in other lines and in front of and behind you in line were not checked as thorough and that is the problem I have. I have seen it many times.

If you are there to check bags.... THEN CHECK ALL THE BAGS!

 

[DABIGCHEEZ]

And yet America's biggest tragedy, 9/11, was committed by men wielding simple pocket knives...

Now this is an idiotic statement if I ever heard one.

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

Now this is an idiotic statement if I ever heard one.

Im unsure why you think its idiotic.