seabreezept813
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Star Wars land isn't much better either.To be fair, it might be new information to Disney, considering the lack of interiors and shade built in Toy Story Land.
Star Wars land isn't much better either.To be fair, it might be new information to Disney, considering the lack of interiors and shade built in Toy Story Land.
Very same boat.My last trip started 2 years ago today. This is the longest stretch without a trip there in 18 years for me. There are a multitude of reasons why and 99% of them are due to Disney continually cutting out things/perks, the ridiculous price increases and prices vs value.
You are doing yourselves a disservice not giving all the Universal Orlando parks and resorts a try.Very same boat.
Every time I even think about it, it only lasts a few minutes because I just can't justify spending that kind of scratch for the current offerings and restrictions (even if they have started to walk those slightly back).
And then I think about Universal, which is like half the price. But I'm like...while I'm ok with that (spent plenty of time at WDW in my life), my spouse has never been, and it's like - how can we spend a week in FL and not do Disney?
We are both working class folks, and even without kids, the price of a one week vacation at WDW right now is about the same as a year of utilities for our house (which is a pretty high number, considering we live in the Northeast and have fuel costs for heating half the year in addition to water, electricity, etc).
It's this never-ending circle of when I think - well, we could sacrifice a little and just swing it - but then it's back to the reduced offerings, all the Genie Plus/LL nonsense, etc. - so...we just don't go, period. It's really sad, honestly, and I can't imagine we are alone.
This late April-Memorial day is now the quietest period in the parks. This summer will be a big testament as to how Orlando fares.Anecdotal evidence, I know. I have been going to WDW at least three times a year for the last 20 or so years, often five or six times a year. I was shocked at the low wait times and lack of crowds last week. And this was while a major cheerleading competition was going on. Many rides that said 15 minute waits were actually walk-ons. Many rides were posted at 5-10 minutes. This is the first time I really felt like the chickens were coming home to roost.
That was actually our plan last year, and we were going to do a MVMCP so at least they could see the MK while we were there. Then my spouse had a major medical issue that was several weeks in a regional hospital just before we were to go, so that went out the window. We will probably try again this year. As I said, I would be totally fine with a week at Universal without Disney - but hauling the spouse all the way across the country and not going at all just seems kind of cruel as they have never been LOL.You are doing yourselves a disservice not giving all the Universal Orlando parks and resorts a try.
If they have never been and you travel to the area you have to go. Isn't even a choiceThat was actually our plan last year, and we were going to do a MVMCP so at least they could see the MK while we were there. Then my spouse had a major medical issue that was several weeks in a regional hospital just before we were to go, so that went out the window. We will probably try again this year. As I said, I would be totally fine with a week at Universal without Disney - but hauling the spouse all the way across the country and not going at all just seems kind of cruel as they have never been LOL.
You have visited so much for so many years, I trust your anecdotal evidence.Anecdotal evidence, I know. I have been going to WDW at least three times a year for the last 20 or so years, often five or six times a year. I was shocked at the low wait times and lack of crowds last week. And this was while a major cheerleading competition was going on. Many rides that said 15 minute waits were actually walk-ons. Many rides were posted at 5-10 minutes. This is the first time I really felt like the chickens were coming home to roost.
AMEN!just don't build queues like Slinky...worst design ever!
It was the one thing that got me during the week of 102 temps we went during last year. Waiting with my toddler and preschooler during RS I covered them in the stroller and kept putting water on them, but I couldn't find any shade for me. Then walking across to ToT, I got super dizzy. Luckily I had drank a lot of water and even pedialyte, so I course corrected. But that spot was brutal. I have in my notes now no Star Wars Land or Toy Story Land 12-3, which will definitely make planning that day tricky this year.AMEN!
For this reason we hardly ever ride Slinky
That seems to be their MO. Cut ride capacity, less staff, less shows, don't open all quick service.... So you don't really get the benefits of lower crowds.To me, this is good news for the visitor, unless that start cutting EVERYTHING big time.
They did invest in building the first interior queue bathroom in AK in one of the rides queue which is a win win. Bladders don't explode and guests can relieve themselves in private.Disney wants to have as little interior space to cool as possible to save costs on air conditioning.
FOP ?They did invest in building the first interior queue bathroom in AK in one of the rides queue which is a win win. Bladders don't explode and guests can relieve themselves in private.
The cynic in me is saying that is purposeful. To drive LL/express salesIt's certainly doable and won't kill you with the appropriate precautions... just miserable experience at times lol
How WDI/Universal Creative still design outdoor queues with no shade and no fans is beyond me.
InterestingAnecdotal evidence, I know. I have been going to WDW at least three times a year for the last 20 or so years, often five or six times a year. I was shocked at the low wait times and lack of crowds last week. And this was while a major cheerleading competition was going on. Many rides that said 15 minute waits were actually walk-ons. Many rides were posted at 5-10 minutes. This is the first time I really felt like the chickens were coming home to roost.
The summer is gonna be deadThis late April-Memorial day is now the quietest period in the parks. This summer will be a big testament as to how Orlando fares.
Yes , restrooms were added around 1 year ago in the interior queue line.FOP ?
It was more like 5 years ago…time fliesYes , restrooms were added around 1 year ago in the interior queue line.
Rest well assured that you are not alone. I have been in this minority for awhile now, but it seems that our ranks grow bigger every day!so...we just don't go, period. It's really sad, honestly, and I can't imagine we are alone.
Even if they don't want to air condition indoor queues, indoor queues with fans are better than outdoor queues.How WDI/Universal Creative still design outdoor queues with no shade and no fans is beyond me.
I think it's just shortsightedness from them and how easy it is to cut a shade structure during budget meetings. When things start to cost overrun, guest comfort starts to get cut.The cynic in me is saying that is purposeful. To drive LL/express sales![]()
That is my guess, but they've been pushing lots of FL resident deals (both resorts) that might convince priced out locals to fill the parks.Interesting
The summer is gonna be dead
They told us months ago if you know what to look for
Yes, anything is better than standing in the sun. I don't need A/C, just block the sun lolEven if they don't want to air condition indoor queues, indoor queues with fans are better than outdoor queues.
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