Splash4eva
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You dont think this company is worth that ?!? Get rid of all the dead weight. Iger to start & get Disney back to what they need to do & right the ship.
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Sirwalterraleigh
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It would sell for that…but I think people are vastly underestimating the depth of damage and longterm consequences Iger has done to Disneys business…
Just by going too far.
When your primary product is “trust”…you do everything you can to protect that.
You don’t overcrowd your parks for more micro transactions and upsells…you don’t remake every movie ever made to get cheap ticket sales…you don’t make bad Star Wars to intentionally whizz or the fanbase…
…just off the top of my head
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Which makes its effect tenuous at best and frustrates your customers who need to Come back if you are to be successful
It would sell for that…but I think people are vastly underestimating the depth of damage and longterm consequences Iger has done to Disneys business…
Just by going too far.
When your primary product is “trust”…you do everything you can to protect that.
You don’t overcrowd your parks for more micro transactions and upsells…you don’t remake every movie ever made to get cheap ticket sales…you don’t make bad Star Wars to intentionally whizz or the fanbase…
…just off the top of my head
I was thinking about this the other day. Specifically on how guest trust has completely been taken for granted. We all joke that tourists are stupid in some way, but people, when it comes to value, are not.
The traveling fairs have done well because they pack up and leave long enough for many people to forget how ripped off they get and its often got not competition. There is more than one reason they travel.
Resting on the laurels breaks some trust in brand, and nickel and diming/changing to grabbing without producing obliterates it.
AEfx
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Thing is, they make much more off of the multi-day folks on everything else (food/merchandise) which is why they "discount" the multi-day tickets - it's the entire reason for their being.
A one-day person is likely coming from off-property, which means they have transportation - and is more likely to eat before they come, and/or after. A multi-day visitor is more likely eating 3 meals a day on property (even if they aren't all in the theme parks). A one-day visitor is also less likely to spend time wandering around shopping as they only have that one-day.
Even if you take out the hotel part of the equation, a multi-day guest spends a lot more than a day tripper on the things they really profit from (food and merch).
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I just priced out a 5 day hopper the other day..
Want to take a guess what it came out to?
Hint: less than $800
My 5-day hopper from last September was $570 (And I think I used a Sam's Club discount for it). The previous October (about 3-ish weeks later on the calendar), the same ticket was $500.
Splash4eva
Well-Known Member
Listen i totally agree with you on all of that and if Disney does ever get sold the “loyalty” factor is now in question as well because people will no longer feel its “Disney”. In the end tho. Put out a great product people will pay. Its still a vacation destination and still can be a break from the real world Disney use to be in all its glory. Anyone who would buy this would need to and obviously know and understand this. Lets face it. They have the land there to build and expand these parks to the capacity needed and my guess is that can be done for less money and in less time than Disney could ever pull off and you would get the same if not better quality.It would sell for that…but I think people are vastly underestimating the depth of damage and longterm consequences Iger has done to Disneys business…
Just by going too far.
When your primary product is “trust”…you do everything you can to protect that.
You don’t overcrowd your parks for more micro transactions and upsells…you don’t remake every movie ever made to get cheap ticket sales…you don’t make bad Star Wars to intentionally whizz or the fanbase…
…just off the top of my head
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
What dates? Remember that they've shifted demand so this month and the next two are "busy season" dates now.
Jrb1979
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That's crazy. I know they aren't the same but that's double what my wife and I pay for our Cedar Fair passes with dining included.
Splash4eva
Well-Known Member
Im paying $750 for a 4 day hopper week of Thanksgiving. More than i paid for a 10 day ticket last summer…
mysto
Well-Known Member
I'm not normal, haha, but I would seek out a themed eatery in the park as part of my reason for my day trip. If I were going to eat at someplace un-themed like Connections for convenience, then sure I'd show up with a full belly. But to me the opportunity to eat in space (or whatever) is well worth the hassle and cost.
I'm definitely not arguing with your larger point that destination guests have more time to spend money. I'm just pointing out that it may not be a dramatic difference in the case of food.
I also wonder how common single day ticket sales are? Someone who just happens to be in the area for a conference are about all I can think of. Maybe taking one day to go to a park on a beach vacation? Locals who don't want to go every week. In all of these cases I think an exotic meal would be considered worthwhile. "if we're going to do this we may as well go all in"
Jrb1979
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For my family at that price it's too expensive. Especially now with the cost of everything. For $750 I can buy a lot of groceries
Don't forget your parking with those too. That Disney would also have you paying every day.
Cedar Fair passes are a great value. Particularly if you live in Ohio.( I got one on a trip I took there and loved it)
Nubs70
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The concept of explicitly targeting those "with money" was starting to be rolled out in B school marketing classes on the backside of the Great Recession around 2009.
lentesta
Premium Member
TRON is averaging around 20-ish minutes/day. That's decent.
Splash4eva
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Listen i totally agree. I was really hoping my daughter didnt want to go back this year… she still wanted her Disney fix but only for a shorter trip during the break.
Nubs70
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What you describe above is Operating Equipment Efficiency.
In the manufacturing world, world class performance is considered as 85%+. Many customers of mine run at 95%-97% based on 24hrs/350 days.
It would be interesting to see the percentages of the data provided.
Jrb1979
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So far I'm lucky in that sense. We haven't taken out 4 year old yet so she doesn't ask about it. Right now the only 2 parks she wants to go to are Cedar Point and Peppa pig land.