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cranbiz

Well-Known Member
Does anyone know what the High Temp, Wet Bulb Temperature, and Real Feel Index will be from 9/16 to 9/22?

I have a sales conference at Universal plus a few extra days after meetings.

Will there be a hurricane in the area or not?
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fairy8i8

New Member
Do VIP tour guests only go in LL queues? I assumed they would get escorted to the front.

All of the silly YouTube videos that are done with various scenarios… I’d be very curious to see “create your own VIP” vs an actual VIP, along the lines of your suggestion to pay for all the advantages (which add up to way less than a VIP package).
They pretty much only go in the LL. There may be a few exceptions, but not many. It is NOT a front of the line pass like the VIP tour at Universal or other parks. I think this is why old outside companies in Orlando would do VIP tours. They had a runner or two get you a bunch of Fastpasses, and they could give a similar experience to Disney's official VIP tour. With Genie+, it's much harder for these companies to mimick Disney's VIP tour, which is basically like having mostly unlimited LL (still some restrictions for the most popular rides), but also a car that drives you around backstage.
 

MickeyLuv'r

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Aren't resort quick services/food courts open until 11:00 or midnight?
GF's used to be open 24 hours/day.

Huh, I just checked a few, and the ones I checked are currently open until 11pm.

I could have sworn some closed at 10pm earlier this year (or maybe last year?), because I opted to get carry out from Miller's Ale House when trying to find food around 10:30pm.

(Miller's isn't stellar, but it is decent for late-night pub-style food.)
 

monothingie

Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.
GF's used to be open 24 hours/day.

Huh, I just checked a few, and the ones I checked are currently open until 11pm.

I could have sworn some closed at 10pm earlier this year (or maybe last year?), because I opted to get carry out from Miller's Ale House when trying to find food around 10:30pm.

(Miller's isn't stellar, but it is decent for late-night pub-style food.)
They stop selling hot food at 11PM and close at Midnight. Same with the Poly.

Everywhere else its 10 or 11PM.

Boardwalk Pizza closes at Midnight also.

Basically on property if you want something after midnight, your only real options are the Speedway stations, the McDonalds, or a vending machine.
 

MickeyLuv'r

Well-Known Member
They stop selling hot food at 11PM and close at Midnight. Same with the Poly.

Everywhere else its 10 or 11PM.

Boardwalk Pizza closes at Midnight also.

Basically on property if you want something after midnight, your only real options are the Speedway stations, the McDonalds, or a vending machine.
That was my personal recollection, too.

I would think there is demand for late night food that isn't being met.
 

Trauma

Well-Known Member
That was my personal recollection, too.

I would think there is demand for late night food that isn't being met.
I never understood this. You get back from the parks. Its late and your freaking starving.

I’m lucky that my room always has a fridge and oven and we throw in a frozen pizza or something.

Still it’s annoying, I can’t be the only one hungry past 11pm.
 

networkpro

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
I never understood this. You get back from the parks. Its late and your freaking starving.

I’m lucky that my room always has a fridge and oven and we throw in a frozen pizza or something.

Still it’s annoying, I can’t be the only one hungry past 11pm.

Wait until you age a bit ;)
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
I just want the mug stations open later, if not 24/7.

They’ve done a really bad job post covid aligning the resort quick service hours with park hours, both opening and closing.
There is zero reason the soft drink stations could not be open 24x7. And resort food courts should have at least one bay open until at least midnight, in the case of values and moderates, and have their one quick serve location open at deluxes (Roaring Fork, as an example) open the same.
 

Nunu

Wanderluster
Premium Member
I just want the mug stations open later, if not 24/7.
There is zero reason the soft drink stations could not be open 24x7. And resort food courts should have at least one bay open until at least midnight, in the case of values and moderates, and have their one quick serve location open at deluxes (Roaring Fork, as an example) open the same.
This, 100%.
 

Lilofan

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There is zero reason the soft drink stations could not be open 24x7. And resort food courts should have at least one bay open until at least midnight, in the case of values and moderates, and have their one quick serve location open at deluxes (Roaring Fork, as an example) open the same.
When we stay in the resorts we notice bare minimal staffing at night ( ie Security , Front Desk ). If drink stations open 24/7 that would mean more cast have to be working to service fix replenish, clean drink locations. Disney is saving bucks by not having more cast working overnights.
 

MickeyLuv'r

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Disney is saving bucks by not having more cast working overnights.
Well yes and no.

I am inclined to think WDW has enough customers that a WDW late night delivery service offering pizza, warm cookies, and a few other munchies would do quite well.

MK used to regularly stay open until midnight and later. I am inclined to think people are willing to stay out late...except that G+ has somewhat crippled the appeal of staying late.

Under G+, there is a strong incentive to be awake at 7am. If I'm awake at 7am, then I might as well get to the park by 9am. That wasn't the case in the past. So while Disney is partly saving money, they are also hurting their business by not offering late night options. (parks and food)

This is part of what I dislike about the G+ era. It somewhat forces me to be a morning person, and to tour the parks with all the morning people.
 
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James Alucobond

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MK used to regularly stay open until midnight and later. I am inclined to think people are willing to stay out late...except that G+ has somewhat crippled the appeal of staying late.

Under G+, there is a strong incentive to be awake at 7am. If I'm awake at 7am, then I might as well get to the park by 9am. That wasn't the case in the past. So while Disney is partly saving money, they are also hurting their business by not offering late night options. (parks and food)

This is part of what I dislike about the G+ era. It somewhat forces me to be a morning person, and to tour the parks with all the morning people.
My suspicion is that they’ve found the scheduled extra evening hours sate most guests’ desire for a couple of late nights at the more popular parks while increasing the value prop of the deluxe resorts and reducing the labor needed to staff everything.
 

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
Well yes and no.

I am inclined to think WDW has enough customers that a WDW late night delivery service offering pizza, warm cookies, and a few other munchies would do quite well.

MK used to regularly stay open until midnight and later. I am inclined to think people are willing to stay out late...except that G+ has somewhat crippled the appeal of staying late.

Under G+, there is a strong incentive to be awake at 7am. If I'm awake at 7am, then I might as well get to the park by 9am. That wasn't the case in the past. So while Disney is partly saving money, they are also hurting their business by not offering late night options. (parks and food)

This is part of what I dislike about the G+ era. It somewhat forces me to be a morning person, and to tour the parks with all the morning people.
At night to us is complete exhaustion spending all day in parks / Springs. A relaxing shower then off to bed for a few hours and rinse and repeat the next morning. If WDW would see substantial demand, not just a few with munchies , to justify being open late night in all resorts , they may offer.
 

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
My suspicion is that they’ve found the scheduled extra evening hours sate most guests’ desire for a couple of late nights at the more popular parks while increasing the value prop of the deluxe resorts and reducing the labor needed to staff everything.
At night the overnight crews deep clean the resorts when ops are shut down . Little challenging if some ops are still open.
 

ConfettiCupcake

Well-Known Member
It’s frustrating that food and drink between approximately 10 pm and 7 am give or take an hour is so hard to come by at these resorts likely as a product of what they consider too low demand, when these aren’t regular hotels. They have a much higher proportion of people who don’t have their own transportation and also who have no intention of patronizing any outside vendors for anything. I take issue with the fact that they can’t keep drink machines and a fridge with some basic food choices open just for something given the way they encourage people to be ‘trapped’.
 

wannabeBelle

Well-Known Member
At night the overnight crews deep clean the resorts when ops are shut down . Little challenging if some ops are still open.

It’s frustrating that food and drink between approximately 10 pm and 7 am give or take an hour is so hard to come by at these resorts likely as a product of what they consider too low demand, when these aren’t regular hotels. They have a much higher proportion of people who don’t have their own transportation and also who have no intention of patronizing any outside vendors for anything. I take issue with the fact that they can’t keep drink machines and a fridge with some basic food choices open just for something given the way they encourage people to be ‘trapped’.
As far as the drink stations, leave one open for half the night and clean the other, then switch, turn on the clean one and take the other one out of service and deep clean that. Where there is a will.....
A grab and go location shouldnt be that hard to add into any of the resorts. Keeping stock in it might be a bit more of a challenge though. Marie
 

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