DonniePeverley
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At the risk of wafting through 524 pages can someone give me a very brief summary as to what on earth is going on?
Per Disney - Taylor Swift and the heat are keeping people away.At the risk of wafting through 524 pages can someone give me a very brief summary as to what on earth is going on?
It’s not just there…ressies and walk up available across the board from 5/22-5/28Theres a reason for that. The food can be a very iffy option there. In April I had what they were calling a 'steak' and the knife they supplied (and it was a good quality German one) wasnt up to the task of cutting it, so I sent it back and replaced it with fish.
Stop nowI can see MK attendance improving especially when some want to visit Hall of Presidents for some history and some laughs.
Taylor Swift has a disproportionate affect on park attendance but somehow a negligible impact on D+ viewership trends.Per Disney - Taylor Swift and the heat are keeping people away.
Per everyone else - it’s too expensive, quality isn’t the same as it used to be, and other things
She turned both off…i blame TicketmasterTaylor Swift has a disproportionate affect on park attendance but somehow a negligible impact on D+ viewership trends.
At the risk of wafting through 524 pages can someone give me a very brief summary as to what on earth is going on?
8/12 was our EPCOT day, I had to lie down on the cold marble floor in the American Pavilion! I truly though I was going to pass out and hubs rushed me there. Thankfully the kids seemed ok and we made they drink cold water every 15-30 minsNo, @HauntedPirate is correct. It rarely gets 100+ in Orlando. According to the National Weather Service Orlando has only hit 100 twice in the last 24 years, on 6/19/2015 and 8/12/2023. So no it wasn't 105 the first week of July last year.
American Adventure is a great way to cool down and or overeating. After the all u can eat at Germany it is a 50 min nap for me at the ice cold theatre.8/12 was our EPCOT day, I had to lie down on the cold marble floor in the American Pavilion! I truly though I was going to pass out and hubs rushed me there. Thankfully the kids seemed ok and we made they drink cold water every 15-30 mins
never though I would lay on the floor of a theme park anywhere, but yeah it was the perfect chill spot for us to cool off and regroup!American Adventure is a great way to cool down and or overeating. After the all u can eat at Germany it is a 50 min nap for me at the ice cold theatre.
You just described my perfect EPCOT dayAmerican Adventure is a great way to cool down and or overeating. After the all u can eat at Germany it is a 50 min nap for me at the ice cold theatre.
At the risk of wafting through 524 pages can someone give me a very brief summary as to what on earth is going on?
Per everyone else - it’s too expensive, quality isn’t the same as it used to be, and other things
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Yep they've so upset by all the reservations and genie+ and upcharges, until it's Tuesday then they forget all that and just come back anyway.
You must not be paying attention
No, it does not. But pointing out one good day at one park does not prove management is great and doing things perfectly either (though, again, wait times do NOT equate to attendance). We will know a ton more in a couple months when the park attendance numbers for 2023 come out, but for now I'll rely on the Quarterly reports which have said WDW has seen decreases in attendance AND revenue, and the insiders who have said things look WORSE this summer than last (which was down).Oh I have been. I have been sitting here contemplating all the reasoning being put forth here for the downturn in attendance, and trying to gauge how serious it is and come up empty almost every time.
This thread as existed as a way of trying to frame all these attendance reports as a referendum on Iger and his management of the parks with the hope that it was a sign that Disney was facing a comeuppance. They will RUE THE DAY! After a year though, it's pretty clear something else is going on that isn't at all related to the theories that most have put forward here.
Magic Kingdom had a light Memorial Day weekend... sure. But Genie+ and reservations and the lack of entertainment and "general lowering of quality" were all still present on Tuesday when the wait times shot back up. All of those things were present at Epcot too over the weekend when Epcot was doing a pretty good business. Even at Disneyland, where all those things still exist, they had a pretty healthy weekend. That's even with someone reporting that they spent $294 on a one-day park hopper with parking.
Bad management doesn't explain bad attendance at one park on a specific day. Clearly people still want to go.
wait times do NOT equate to attendance.
We will know a ton more in a couple months when the park attendance numbers for 2023 come out, but for now I'll rely on the Quarterly reports which have said WDW has seen decreases in attendance AND revenue, and the insiders who have said things look WORSE this summer than last (which was down).
Specific to “defend their drop”….we are hitting MLB Ballparks in lieu of at least two trips to Disney this season…..Boy, comparing Disney to the MLB is a weird way to try and defend their drop considering how far the MLB has fallen in both tv and attendance in the last 4 decades or so.
Well let’s see. I’m here this week reporting onsite and can confirm crowds are down. I’m not just making things up.Oh I have been. I have been sitting here contemplating all the reasoning being put forth here for the downturn in attendance, and trying to gauge how serious it is and come up empty almost every time.
This thread as existed as a way of trying to frame all these attendance reports as a referendum on Iger and his management of the parks with the hope that it was a sign that Disney was facing a comeuppance. They will RUE THE DAY! After a year though, it's pretty clear something else is going on that isn't at all related to the theories that most have put forward here.
Magic Kingdom had a light Memorial Day weekend... sure. But Genie+ and reservations and the lack of entertainment and "general lowering of quality" were all still present on Tuesday when the wait times shot back up. All of those things were present at Epcot too over the weekend when Epcot was doing a pretty good business. Even at Disneyland, where all those things still exist, they had a pretty healthy weekend. That's even with someone reporting that they spent $294 on a one-day park hopper with parking.
Bad management doesn't explain bad attendance at one park on a specific day. Clearly people still want to go.
Well let’s see. I’m here this week reporting onsite and can confirm crowds are down. @Sirwalterraleigh was here over the holiday weekend as well and confirmed crowds are down. It was not just one day but you can think that if it makes you feel better.
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