Is attendance really down at WDW this or…

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natatomic

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For what it’s worth, looks like Disney isn’t the only theme park experiences a slow holiday.

(I know Dollywood isn’t entirely comparable to Disney, but it’s a park that has seen huge growth and huge attendance records, too)
 

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JoeCamel

JoeCamel

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natatomic said:
For what it’s worth, looks like Disney isn’t the only theme park experiences a slow holiday.

(I know Dollywood isn’t entirely comparable to Disney, but it’s a park that has seen huge growth and huge attendance records, too)
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They have a heavy ad spend in the day trip area, I wonder how bookings are in the new hotel? It's priced about what the Contemporary brings but a nicer build IMO, certainly newer and location is subjective.
 
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aprilibeth

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lentesta said:
One of our team says that attendance is lower when the Pirate Pass is blocked out. I haven't checked that, but it's an interesting idea
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My family has Pirate and we definetly would have come this weekend. The kids and I were all off today. We live 1.5-3 hours away depending on traffic and always stay on property. Disney is leaving money on the table. In years past during slow times, they would unblock passes. Nowadays with the insane amount of money they upper passes cost (really all passes) people with the upper passes would loose their minds if Disney unblocked lower passes or changed availability. Summer is going to be dead. Great for us, not so great for Disney.
 
lentesta

lentesta

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JCtheparrothead said:
MK was had super low attendance today. We were able to get a quick queue for Tron at 7pm and most of the rides were walk one from about 5pm on.
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Magic Kingdom was a crowd level '1' (out of 10, 10=highest) on Memorial Day. I think that's unprecedented.
  • EPCOT = 8 / 10
  • DHS = 4
  • DAK = 5
  • Disneyland = 8
  • DCA = 9
  • Universal Studios Florida = 9
  • IOA = 5
 
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Lilofan

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lentesta said:
Magic Kingdom was a crowd level '1' (out of 10, 10=highest) on Memorial Day. I think that's unprecedented.
  • EPCOT = 8 / 10
  • DHS = 4
  • DAK = 5
  • Disneyland = 8
  • DCA = 9
  • Universal Studios Florida = 9
  • IOA = 5
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Saw on CPs posting on other sites that MK cast were getting released early from scheduled shifts during the day. Save on payroll and less earnings for college program cast.
 
GhostHost1000

GhostHost1000

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natatomic said:
For what it’s worth, looks like Disney isn’t the only theme park experiences a slow holiday.

(I know Dollywood isn’t entirely comparable to Disney, but it’s a park that has seen huge growth and huge attendance records, too)
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There have been a lot of storms in the area the past few days and it was raining and storming early that morning there (before park opening however) which could have played a role in attendance there
 
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jpeden

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PREMiERdrum said:
Woke up to some interesting messages. Alarms are ringing louder than ever.

It will be interesting to see just how much more has to happen to overcome the pride and arrogance raining down from the c-suite.
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I would think that attendance at MK this weekend alone should be enough to force some change. Like @lentesta said, a 1/10 on a major US Holiday has to be some sort of unprecedented record (and not in a good way).

If they want to get people into their hotels they need to do at least some of the following things:

  • Bring back bags/magical express (not sure how they bring back bags since the company went under but try to figure it out - it's TWDC, they can do it if they want)
  • Restore some sort of semblance of EMH's in their traditional format (not just for Deluxe guests in the evenings)
  • They've GOT to do something about the Genie, although I know they'll never want to give up that revenue (maybe this is a buy x days get x days free type thing if you're staying on site
  • They need to lower ticket prices for people staying on property - often times we talk about going down for a quick trip, but it's the ticket costs that deter us, not the hotel prices (because you can often get a decent hotel discount at a value/moderate which is fine for a quick trip).
 
Tha Realest

Tha Realest

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jpeden said:
I would think that attendance at MK this weekend alone should be enough to force some change. Like @lentesta said, a 1/10 on a major US Holiday has to be some sort of unprecedented record (and not in a good way).

If they want to get people into their hotels they need to do at least some of the following things:

  • Bring back bags/magical express (not sure how they bring back bags since the company went under but try to figure it out - it's TWDC, they can do it if they want)
  • Restore some sort of semblance of EMH's in their traditional format (not just for Deluxe guests in the evenings)
  • They've GOT to do something about the Genie, although I know they'll never want to give up that revenue (maybe this is a buy x days get x days free type thing if you're staying on site
  • They need to lower ticket prices for people staying on property - often times we talk about going down for a quick trip, but it's the ticket costs that deter us, not the hotel prices (because you can often get a decent hotel discount at a value/moderate which is fine for a quick trip).
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I don’t disagree with any of these things, but I feel there are too many disparate (yet interconnected) revenue streams with various stakeholders not wanting to budge for the greater good of the division. That would take strong leadership to make happen. But that’s lacking now, no matter how much performative empathy he displays (he could also be pining for a promotion, so that also disincentivizes long term thinking)
 

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