Is attendance really down at WDW this or…

[Tha Realest]

Who said anything about heat?

Yes, there are more variables. Wait times are not simply a function of number of guests in line.

Oracle of Orlando, if you can build a better mousetrap or have some unusual insight that everyone’s missed, please share. Many have asked you to, including Len.

Your refusal to do so continues to demonstrate bad faith, especially towards one who is unusually open about his process and data.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

But they skipped riding because they didn't think it was worth 70 minutes. So they missed out on an enjoyable experience because of bad information.

If it’s indeed being eyeballed by CMs, could this just be an instance in which reporting was delayed for whatever reason? Do we know how often they report?

Underpromise and overdeliver is basic, but that should be for maybe a 10 minute advantage, not a 40-50 minute one - which as you suggest is a bad experience overall.

Also, if a lot of people ran over because they saw a 20 minute wait, the wait time would go up pretty quickly.

So maybe if it drops to a 20 minute wait as an anomaly for what’s expected to be a short time, they leave it alone (for simplicity and/or to avoid a stampede of folks who would then be disappointed by waiting longer than 20 minutes by the time they got there?)

I’m thinking for high demand rides. Just spitballing.

 

[Drdcm]

This is forbidden knowledge. It will break your feeble little minds if you were to become enlightened

 

[Grimley1968]

Apparently the wait times “algorithm” used by WDW is on the order of social media company algorithms in terms of value and secrecy.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Just looked at wait times at 5pm on the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend.

Great for guests who are there, bad for Bob.

It’s kinda sad…actually

Got a boathouse res for 7 at 5:45…on a Saturday without a Gate Paywall in front of it

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

This is forbidden knowledge. It will break your feeble little minds if you were to become enlightened

…is that like top gun

“It’s classified…I could tell you but then I’d have to kill you…”

 

[V_L_Raptor]

Just looked at wait times at 5pm on the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend.

Great for guests who are there, bad for Bob.

Really interested in how the whole shebang falls out through the end of the long weekend. The locals are out of school, the weather's hot but not too rainy at all, Disney should theoretically be killing it right now.

Mm-hmm.

 

[easyrowrdw]

There is no way WDW can do this. There is no where near enough capacity to give free Genie+ or ILL to all those deluxe rooms.

Just 4 years ago every guest at the park had access to fastpass. And every guest at a Disney hotel could book 3 in advance. Those are both far fewer than the number of deluxe resort guests. I don’t think the guest to capacity ratio has gotten so out of whack since then so as to make such a plan untenable.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Mansplaining is one thing…TouringPlansplaining is really something

He’s only the foremost Orlando tracker/crowd expert…what does he know?

I bet he’s never been a low level employee and doesn’t even WEAR A NAMETAG!

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Really interested in how the whole shebang falls out through the end of the long weekend. The locals are out of school, the weather's hot but not too rainy at all, Disney should theoretically be killing it right now.

Mm-hmm.

Temp is high but the humidity isn’t sweltering…it’s not that bad. Suns out, drinks out

And besides…when people plan they think it’s 85 in may anyway…the “heat” is the draw, not what scares them away

 

[Drdcm]

…is that like top gun

“It’s classified…I could tell you but then I’d have to kill you…”

It’s more along the lines of knowing all of existence, all that is to come, and all that will ever be. It’s just too much for the uninitiated and will drive you insane

 

[Grimley1968]

I have to say that, as a resident of “summer by May 1” Kentucky, the May sun in Florida is a different beast than what even I’m used to. We went to WDW several years ago in mid May, and the temps were about what we’d have locally, but the feel of the Florida sun in the morning made me a little queasy. It was still quite crowded, though, compared to any reports I’ve seen on here recently.

 

[JoeCamel]

I have to say that, as a resident of “summer by May 1” Kentucky, the May sun in Florida is a different beast than what even I’m used to. We went to WDW several years ago in mid May, and the temps were about what we’d have locally, but the feel of the Florida sun in the morning made me a little queasy. It was still quite crowded, though, compared to any reports I’ve seen on here recently.

And after living in Florida for 20 years I went to Costa Rica in fall, I thought i knew hot but that was different level and the locals didn't notice a bit

 

[Lilofan]

And after living in Florida for 20 years I went to Costa Rica in fall, I thought i knew hot but that was different level and the locals didn't notice a bit

Visited Panama in December ( stayed in home with no AC ) one year and that intense humid weather in Dec made Central Florida in July feel like cool weather.

 

[Lilofan]

Temp is high but the humidity isn’t sweltering…it’s not that bad. Suns out, drinks out

And besides…when people plan they think it’s 85 in may anyway…the “heat” is the draw, not what scares them away

Drinking continually is good, high of 97 degrees tomorrow Sun and Mon in Orlando ,can't imagine how many daily 100 degrees high coming up this summer.

 

[nestface84]

Drinking continually is good, high of 97 degrees tomorrow Sun and Mon in Orlando ,can't imagine how many daily 100 degrees high coming up this summer.

I’m hoping for hot temp when I attend in July. Don’t fancy over the 100. Mid 90s is more than enough

 

[JoeCamel]

Drinking continually is good, high of 97 degrees tomorrow Sun and Mon in Orlando ,can't imagine how many daily 100 degrees high coming up this summer.

Whenever I'm in the parks drinking continually is a life goal

 

[Nubs70]

Who said anything about heat?

Yes, there are more variables. Wait times are not simply a function of number of guests in line.

Wait times are a function of:
1. The number of people in the queue.
2. Seats per minute thruput.

If there are 100 people in line with the equivalent of 2 seats per minute dispatched, wait time is 50 minutes.

If a Brazilian tour group crashes the line and the queue rises to 180 people, the wait time grows to 90 minutes. Time to add more another vehicle to increase seats and lower wait time.

OR

Sell 80 LL passes.

Basic mass balance.

 

[Lilofan]

I’m hoping for hot temp when I attend in July. Don’t fancy over the 100. Mid 90s is more than enough

In July you will be hot dry then wet , rinse and repeat several times per day especially in the afternoons. ( ie Rain ponchos are cheaper purchased at Wal-Mart than what the parks sell them for ).

 

[Jrb1979]

In July you will be hot dry then wet , rinse and repeat several times per day especially in the afternoons. ( ie Rain ponchos are cheaper purchased at Wal-Mart than what the parks sell them for ).

I love it. Mainly cause how much I hate winter and the cold.