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Disbeys reputation must be in tatters... their 2 biggest most profitable rides (Tron and Rise) are riddled with issues.
There's just no value in paying $140 to get in, then forking out another $20 to get on a ride that isn't fully functional and isn't the full experience
Tron I rode 6 times last week...on 3 occasions the audio/visuals before the take off weren't in sync and caused a delay to the take off. I've also noticed that the visuals aren't in sync ever on the front 2 rows.
Shocking for a new ride thats raking in millions.
There's just no value in paying $140 to get in, then forking out another $20 to get on a ride that isn't fully functional and isn't the full experience
Tron I rode 6 times last week...on 3 occasions the audio/visuals before the take off weren't in sync and caused a delay to the take off. I've also noticed that the visuals aren't in sync ever on the front 2 rows.
Shocking for a new ride thats raking in millions.
JD80
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@Tony the Tigger
Comparing 2019 to 2023, the price for a family of four with 5 tickets is around $700 more expensive (adjusting for inflation). That means, they've increase the cost of a ticket by $33 dollars beyond inflationary pressures in four years.
I made a chart a few months ago (Family of four, 19% inflation)
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And even that doesn't tell the full story as to get a like for like day, you'd need to add G+ and LL+.
This is many peoples arguments...dont ramp up the price and take at every turn if your product and your service is going down and down.
Splash4eva
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It cost money now and genie is NOT the same as FP was….
el_super
Well-Known Member
Like for like how? I just checked the wait times. How are you able to get more attractions done in 2019 with longer waits than today?
LSLS
Well-Known Member
We are like an hour into the day, what are you basing your comparison to 2019 on?
Tony the Tigger
Well-Known Member
What that conveniently ignores is the price of everything has gone up.
So many were pushing for CMs to get a “living wage.” You think that’s not getting absorbed by price increases?
2019 is over. The pandemic coincided with a call for everyone to make $15-$20 per hour (an increase of $7-$12 per hour) no matter their job or skill set. Prices (with some exceptions) are staying up for the long haul, possibly settling down a smidge but not going back to 2019 even in a recession.
el_super
Well-Known Member
My last trip there in 2019.
Marionnette
Well-Known Member
So, you haven't even used G+ at WDW yet?
LSLS
Well-Known Member
And which park would that be? According to Thrill-Data, wait times are shorter now in AK and MK than in 2023, but longer in Epcot and DHS. Of course, lots of other factors play into that, but I'm not seeing any data backing up that wait times were much longer in 2019 than in 2023 today.
Animaniac93-98
Well-Known Member
Looks like wild animals are now the fastest growing demographic of WDW visitors, though it remains to be seen what kind of per guest spending figures they generate.
JD80
Well-Known Member
G+ is functionally better than FP+ at least for a family of 5. The only downside is cost and brain drain of project managing your day starting at 7AM. I very much dislike these downsides, but I got more rides out of it than FP+ days.
Disneydad1012
Active Member
shocking....
Dranth
Well-Known Member
I have. Multiple times over multiple trips and G+ is objectively better than FP+. Sure, I knew exactly how to manipulate FP+ to get the most out of it if I wanted to but not everyone did and those that didn't had a FAR worse experience.
Bottom line, FP+ was great for a small group at the extreme end and was average to terrible for everyone else. G+ is an opt in, equal access option that improves the experience for MOST people that use it in terms of number of rides and which rides the user has access to. Sure, it has plenty of downside but, it is a better system.
Disney Analyst
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Tha Realest
Well-Known Member
Just so we’re clear - you’ve been stridently defending an offering (G+) which never existed in your visit(s) to the parks and, thus, have never used ?
irmonkey
Member
"Why would anyone fork out $20 to get on broken rides? Anyway -- so I rode Tron 6 times in the past week..."
JoeCamel
Well-Known Member
and I've never seen Fantasmic......."Why would anyone fork out $20 to get on broken rides? Anyway -- so I rode Tron 6 times in the past week..."
el_super
Well-Known Member
Nope.
I wasn't even defending G+ as much as I was saying free Fastpass had to go away. Any system that removes the free for all option, and the problems that Fastpass brought on, is a step in the right direction.