Fido Chuckwagon
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Is attendance really down at WDW this or…
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erasure fan1
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No. If you follow the thread back, it was about guest experience. The swamp water comparison was just to put it in perspective.
Whatever the case , travelers are in Central FL in droves. Recently at MCO at 4am , thousands of guests were in queue to clear TSA at Terminal B, 49 min wait.
erasure fan1
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Ok? I never said people weren't going. I said I wasn't going. I'm a drop in the bucket that Disney doesn't care about. There's a lot to do in central Florida without stepping foot in a Disney park.
We were at WDW last week of August and felt the parks themselves were quieter than our previous visit August 2022 (although we were there a couple of weeks later this year so likely more schools back etc.) By quieter I mean the walkways were less crowded, less people in restrooms / quick services / table services, shorter lines at Starbucks, no wait for mobile orders to be prepared etc.
However, the waits on MDE were higher than expected given the parks didn’t feel busy. They were at least as high as they had been in August 2022 with what felt like less people there. Whilst we did see short waits first thing / on MK MNSSHP party day / Hurricane Idalia day, a lot of the time most rides seemed to be 40 - 70 minute waits or above (things like TSM, BTM, RnRC, Space, Safaris, MMRR) which felt high in comparison to the number of people in the parks.
Most of the time the posted waits did turn out to be accurate (I can’t think of a time off the top of my head where it was off in either direction drastically.) It felt like it was our good old friend Genie+ slowing down the standby as we would often be stuck without moving at all for five plus minutes at a time (where they were merging the lines I guess). So it definitely seemed that a lot of people were still buying Genie+ even though the parks weren’t crazy busy. Just my take.
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, in The Sorrows of Young Werther, first published in 1774, writes "misunderstandings and neglect occasion more mischief in the world than even malice and wickedness. At all events, the two latter are of less frequent occurrence."
I'd go with neglect in this case.
That's true. Keep supporting the #2 economic driver of the Sunshine State's economy is a great thing.
Disstevefan1
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Oh look...another Disney park and yet another day where they have a delayed opening/technical issues (or the truth, they don't want to put staff on to get it working at park open and to fill other rides to get times up and hey...sell more Genies yeah?)
Pirates down...almost an impossible ride to have 'technical dificulties'
Pirates down...almost an impossible ride to have 'technical dificulties'
I was at Universal last year. Saw Jurassic coaster down for most of the morning. It happens.
wannabeBelle
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I agree however according to Universal's Website there are 51 things to do in that park, Hollywood Studios has 20 so that is a big difference. If you get down to actual rides and not necessarily shows, the numbers are even more startling. Take out one or two rides and it is a very real problem. New Construction to increase capacity needs to happen but apparently wont be in the next few years, which is the whole point of what is being said. Marie
Tony the Tigger
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Then we’ll never have to read this again. Woo hoo!
They must be doing something right.
Given how busy OP says they are, they have no reason to address your concerns.
Tony the Tigger
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Wow, even the tertiary Disney infrastructure has turned.
Mark the post, at least no one can say you’re in their pocket, or even pixie dusters. (That’s a good thing.)
You could ha e at one time if you had The Tables in Wonderland membership that failed.
JoeCamel
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Not if George is about
Sirwalterraleigh
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I know what one - minus the Covid stuff - by heart
I meant the small print on the GENIE.
You click “buy”, what are you agreeing to? Honest question.
I would say
“No…no…and no”
But that would be in a legal disclaimer.
But even if it’s not…you’d have to sue them to make such a claim and they don’t really lose operational disputes.
Somebody would have sued (me) them for mere existence of after hours if that were the case. But it’s a fools errand. They control the kingdom like Louis XIV
And even “free” on fastpass could be wiggled out of.
Old: included in the cost
New: split out
Old: “we got it for free”
New: “now you have choice…your ticket would be ALOT more for everyone now if you win”
Judge: “you lose…bang…what’s for lunch?”
erasure fan1
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Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I did one…it was actually really cool.
And it also was DIFFERENT…not reselling the same thing which is all the bobs really do these days.
Failure? That generated loads of volume - especially in state - that lead to revenue they wouldn’t have otherwise and ancillary merch sales to boot. Winners all the way around.
But no “unplanned discounts” in the Blue Ocean….reject
Andrew25
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I don't think attraction downtime is due to a secret agenda to push wait times up by keeping attractions closed, I just think maintenance is really bad. Just looking at the state of some attractions is all you need to know.
I do think wait-times are inflated to consider potential downtime, the ridiculous Genie to Standby ratio, and the fact that one attraction down causes a domino effect throughout the park due to a lack of capacity.
I do think wait-times are inflated to consider potential downtime, the ridiculous Genie to Standby ratio, and the fact that one attraction down causes a domino effect throughout the park due to a lack of capacity.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
The mermaid thread? Thank you, Jesus
Or their customers are wrong…which always is a fun discussion!
…but they’re not. I made a casual inquiry and not surprising - business hasn’t picked up.
The genie doesn’t tell you what you think it does. (Not “you”…any of us)
It may tell you the line is long…but isn’t highlight that was guaranteed based on normal travel increases 10 years ago. The cake is made.
And the “exclusive holiday events” may “sell out”…but that means almost nothing in regards to the daily operation…where yogurt makes the real money in the shops.
Hell…we don’t even know what the hell “sold out” means?