Interesting rumors about marvel in dl & wdw

[Unplugged]

While there are a lot of posts I agree with, there is some room for reason. I will say I am not a huge super hero fan, but the Marvel franchise has potential if we follow Walt's lead and think outside the box.

For example, while I do not see Epcot as a character park by any means as it's base design is worlds fair centric, the tactful integration of Nemo into the Living Seas was a fairly subtle impact on the park itself and has sparked interest in the exhibit with some fresh ideas. With that thought it seems that the same tactful approach to redo one of the unused attractions in Future World would make an outstanding home to a "Stark Expo". Considering the real world work being developed regarding clean energy, exoskeletons, and more, this is not an unrealistic approach. At least, not any more then Tomorrow Land is/was for "tomorrow".

I do agree most superheros place would be in a DHS land of their own and there exists ample physical land to extend for such a place with additions to Lucas-land as well.

Perhaps, at this stage, we shouldn't rule out anything as fair game.

 

[Random Vids Inc]

I support Marvel taking over the WoL Pavillion in Epcot. Most of Marvel's heros are based on gene manipulation and humans having powers based on evolution. Why not take that idea and bring it to Epcot?

It would take the old idea of the pavillion and give it a twist. Throw in a ride, maybe a 3D adventure with the characters. Use the Body Wars ride space? Throw in some meet an greets and there you go. You've got everything you need and it still fits the theme of Epcot.

I mean if Nemo can represent the entire ocean then heros can represent the human body. Just saying!

 

[The Empress Lilly]

I hear claims like this repeated a lot but don't really understand them. The Magic Kingdom's signature attractions, at present, are about jungle animals, pirates, mine trains, ghosts, rocket ships, aliens, and monsters, all of which are stereotypically skewed towards boys. The only attraction in the whole park to explicitly feature a female in a starring role is Snow White's Scary Adventures, and it's being closed.

Indeed! :wave:

While I insist that most of WDW is more a matter of taste more than of gender, if one must name WDW either girlish or boyish than it is obviously boyish. Pirates, guns in ofrts, trains, space, Star Wars, two car race tracks - one real and one small scale, etcetera.

If DHS had been designed by women it would focus on movie premieres, celebrities, glitter and glamour. One would dress up to go see red carpet fashion shows instead of shows about cars and explosions.

WDW is all about the boyish dreams of grown men, to its core, despite the princess and cute and pink overlay.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

When Disney does make a ride like this they get complaints to no end (ie M:S and AE)

Indeed! :wave:

Having Marvel characters in Disney Parks is one of the worst ideas I've ever heard.

Indeed! :wave:

 

[jhastings74]

First off, ot the OP, thank you for posting that link. It was interesting reading.

Second, I really didn't have any opinion on the whole issue, one way or the other...until I read Random Vids post and found myself thinking, "Yeah...I can actually SEE that, in a way..." I think that there would be huge benefits to incorporating some Marvel characters into the Wonders of Life pavilion. Think how many things could be taken care of: fanbois get a classic pavilion re-imagined and opened, Team Disney gets SOME type of Marvel presence in their parks, without creating too much intrusion right away, and the material/characters used I'm sure could be fit right into the WoL theme.

So, in other words, thumbs up, Random Vids. I thought that was a pretty good idea.:wave:

 

[cymbaldiva]

For example, while I do not see Epcot as a character park by any means as it's base design is worlds fair centric, the tactful integration of Nemo into the Living Seas was a fairly subtle impact on the park itself and has sparked interest in the exhibit with some fresh ideas. With that thought it seems that the same tactful approach to redo one of the unused attractions in Future World would make an outstanding home to a "Stark Expo". Considering the real world work being developed regarding clean energy, exoskeletons, and more, this is not an unrealistic approach. At least, not any more then Tomorrow Land is/was for "tomorrow".

Ooooo - Stark Expo.... I like that!!!!

 

[Krack]

As someone who is very pro-Marvel-In-the-Parks, I can definitively say that the day Marvel characters are in EPCOT is the last day I walk through the turnstiles. That park is already a complete mess; putting Marvel there is management effectively throwing their hands up and saying "We don't really care about 'theming' anymore at all." It's a shame because 20 years ago, it was my favorite park.

Regardless, Marvel's not going anyway east of the Mississippi other than IOA.

 

[Darth Angelo]

Well I saw this yesterday. And this might put some of this Marvel/Disney rumors to rest.

http://www.universalorlando.com/Ove...ns_2012.aspx?__source=EDW669150&ptyid=4585961

Universal is updating the animation and projection system of the Spiderman Ride.

So why would Universal be spending money on a ride in a part of the park they are considering removing and giving the rights to Disney?

I do think that Universal has or can get rights to many other properties that can fit into Marvel Island at IoA. But think of the money it would take to remove and retheme the rides at Superhero Island.

 

[misterID]

Well I saw this yesterday. And this might put some of this Marvel/Disney rumors to rest.

http://www.universalorlando.com/Ove...ns_2012.aspx?__source=EDW669150&ptyid=4585961

Universal is updating the animation and projection system of the Spiderman Ride.

So why would Universal be spending money on a ride in a part of the park they are considering removing and giving the rights to Disney?

I do think that Universal has or can get rights to many other properties that can fit into Marvel Island at IoA. But think of the money it would take to remove and retheme the rides at Superhero Island.

Yeah, these were rumors that made its way onto these boards a while ago, that there were some backroom negotiations going on to bring all the Marvel characters/attractions to WDW. That was really far fetched and shot down pretty quickly. Some people just ran with it as fact, I guess. And to be honest, I don't know if the rumor originated from any real source or it was just an assumption (made up) by some very enthusiastic Disney fans who thought that what was happening.

 

[zachrupertdsn]

I think a good point people have made is perhaps they won't make them remove anything from islands of adventure, but this is just a means to bring characters from their vast collection to the parks.

 

[NowInc]

....I know I'm going to regret posting this...

Marvel Superhero Island wasn't even originally supposed to be Marvel at All. It was planned as a DC island.

http://www.comics101.com/guestlecturer//?mode=project&action=view&project=Guest Lecturer&chapter=91

Now that being said, there are rumors (tho...they are just that) that talks of "converting" marvel to DC would be easy (in all honesty..it would. Hulk -> batman, Dr.Doom -> joker, Spiderman -> superman).

The updating that is currently going on for Spiderman isn't really a valid argument as to their insight on the future of the land, its merely a necessary update to keep the ride system appealing (Harry Potter stole pretty much all of spidermans thunder in IOA).

I still stand by my original viewpoints tho. There will never be a Marvel entity in any Disney Park. (Personal Opinion)

 

[FigmentJedi]

....I know I'm going to regret posting this...

Marvel Superhero Island wasn't even originally supposed to be Marvel at All. It was planned as a DC island.

http://www.comics101.com/guestlecturer//?mode=project&action=view&project=Guest Lecturer&chapter=91

Now that being said, there are rumors (tho...they are just that) that talks of "converting" marvel to DC would be easy (in all honesty..it would. Hulk -> batman, Dr.Doom -> joker, Spiderman -> superman).

The updating that is currently going on for Spiderman isn't really a valid argument as to their insight on the future of the land, its merely a necessary update to keep the ride system appealing (Harry Potter stole pretty much all of spidermans thunder in IOA).

I still stand by my original viewpoints tho. There will never be a Marvel entity in any Disney Park. (Personal Opinion)

Wouldn't it be a hell of a lot easier to make Hulk into Green Lantern?

 

[puntagordabob]

Agree for the most part though I could see a fit in DHS at best. Beyond that, please keep them out of DL, MK, AK and Epcot.

I agree that DHS would be a super place for a "Marvel Land" at WDW, not a fan of them at MK or DL..... Also since there are what over a 1000 Marvel characters then Disney's easiest route (for WDW anyways) would be to start to promote (tv series, movies, whatever works!) some of the other not that well known Marvel Superheroes (there is bound to be some sleeper-hits in their catalog just waiting for a day to shine!) and then bring THEM into WDW since the UNI contract only covers specific characters agreed upon & in use at Universal now....

 

[roadtripper]

I have a feeling that Marvel is the reason that the shiek or king or whatever he is visited the parks a week or so ago. I could see Disney working with him to get a Marvel park built in another country. It had been planned for Dubai so there must be a good bit of interest for a theme park over there. I assume that there were all sorts of polls done, logistics worked out, etc. If they can find someone willing to split the bill????

 

[JEANYLASER]

yeah! I don't want to see marvel in EPCOT!

 

[RSoxNo1]

Wouldn't it be a hell of a lot easier to make Hulk into Green Lantern?

This isn't Disney where choices on Paint cost tens of millions of dollars. Batman is more recognizeable than the Green Lantern so with some changes to the queue and some Black paint the change wouldn't be tough.

 

[Disday]

I'm sure that there are behind the scenes discussions about bringing the Marvel characters to WDW. However, knowing Universal execs' apparent egos, I don't think that it's happening soon. - On the issue of them spending money to update the attractions, that's a part of the contract. If Universal didn't keep the Marvel attractions in good shape, Disney would have a free way out of the contract. And, if a deal is reached, Disney will create their own attractions - they wouldn't bring the ones from Universal to WDW.

 

[Indiana Stone]

I also think that a conversion of the Marvel attractions at IOA to DC themes is the way to go for Universal. The film rights to DC properties is controlled by WB, who also happen to distribute the Potter series. Universal and WB have shown to have a working and profitable relationship by bringing the Wizarding World to IOA.

Would the Hulk really be any less thrilling if it were painted blue and re-named Superman? The brand is just as recognizable, although Marvel movies have had a better track record lately. Maybe Universal doesn't want to relinquish their park rights just because they can. This is a business after all and competitors tend to resist actions that may benefit their rival.

 

[misterID]

Doesn't Six Flags have the rights to DC comic characters?

 

[nc_disneyfreak]

maybe im old fashioned....

i say keep marvel/dc out of disney...dont get me wrong, i like that kind of stuff as well, but to me, keep disney, disney....
the imagineers, if given complete control of ride development can come up with plenty of awesome rides, geared towards teens, adults...
Lets see, an aladdin magic carpet roller coaster, flynn rider type rides, go with pixar themed thrill rides etc....(just ideas)
and we all know if thats the direction disney wants to go in, theres plenty of room to make it happen...