Rumor Inside Out to Replace Journey into Imagination with Figment?

[DAR1974]

Yes back in the 80's and 90's. A family saving up for years and goes to WDW today would see Figment and likely respond with a shrug. I don't like it myself but that's just the way it is now.

 

[Dapper Dan]

In this case I don't understand why using Inside Out is considered IPcot. Inside Out was created by Disney for Disney way after Disney purchased Pixar. It isn't even close as this isn't it a IP that was bought from someone else this is 100% Disney.

In my opinion this is no more than Walt Disney using Peter Pan, Snow White, and mr. Toad, in original Fantasyland. Never in the history of Disney Parks has every single attraction been an attraction that was unique and exclusive to that Park. Not everything is a jungle cruise a Pirates of the Caribbean or Haunted Mansion and it never has been. I'm completely fine with Disney using its own created intellectual properties inside or out of its own created parks. See what I did there

Epcot isn't Fantasyland.

 

[trainplane3]

He was well-known for the general public back in the 80's and 90's. There was even a website that was dedicated to bringing back Figment when the second version of the attraction existed.

And weren't the complaints bad enough that Eisner came out to see what people didn't like? After that, he injected emergency money to halfway unscrew it up. That's how the rumor went at least.

 

[999th Happy Haunt]

Wasn't there a Figment question in a park survey recently?

 

[marni1971]

. Were you surprised to not see the new country announced? The new attraction for UK? I cannot say I was stunned to not hear more, but a little surprised. My guess is we will not have to wait until D23 2019 to hear the rest of the 50th plans. . .

Surprised? Not exactly.

 

[Disone]

Epcot isn't Fantasyland.

Thanks. Aware.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

As long as Figment continues to have a presence at the park, I'd be fine with this. Inside Out totally works for the Imagination pavilion. As cute as Journey is, it is kinda... "Quaint" to put it nicely, compared to some other dark rides on property. Had I not experienced it as a child I'm not sure I'd be fond of it. That said I'd love if it got an update, filled it out a bit more.

Maybe replace the Pixar Movie Festival with a Figment "5"D show? As in, implement effects like AAs, come up with some new ones never been used at a Disney 3D show before. Could be cool.

I imagine if Figment is removed from the ride he will basically become another Orange Bird with a nod here or there in the park few would ever notice and merchandise marketed to the hardcore fans.

 

[Dapper Dan]

And weren't the complaints bad enough that Eisner came out to see what people didn't like? After that, he injected emergency money to halfway unscrew it up. That's how the rumor went at least.

Yes. The version we have now exists entirely because complaints were so bad Figment was shoehorned back in.

 

[Tom Morrow]

At least if this were to happen, it's not a stretch, thematically. It fits rather perfectly.

 

[marni1971]

By what metric is this not a good move? The ride will be more popular in terms of attendance and satisfaction...it couldn't really get much worse. At the end of the day that's all that matters in determining whether or not it's a good move. So a few people on the internet care about too much IP in EPCOT, the vast majority of the public doesn't care, and I mean vast. And they'll be happy to see a new and innovative Inside Out attraction, which has a lot of potential as a concept..

Conversely, the vast majority of the public would enjoy a well designed and executed ride using the 1982 IP. You know, like they used to have. And I mean vast.

Maybe.

 

[ford91exploder]

Just bulldoze Epcot and get it over with Disney

And build the bar and casino complex you have always wanted.

Now its time for Disney to announce that RCID is actually the tribal nation of the Shmoehawk Tribe... thereby allowing Disney to build a casino.

Props to whoever recognizes the boston radio host who named the tribe

 

[FigmentJedi]

Inside Out also fits. It's literally PART OF THE MOVIE

As a crappy rundown amusement park that reduces the creativity of an 11 year old girl down to a "Floor is Lava" simulator and a Husbando Generator.

With a dopey hobo snuffleupagus clown that just exists to be annoying and have an emotionally manipulative death.

 

[ford91exploder]

I have watched Inside Out several times and enjoy it immensely. Fantastic film that really touched me. And unlike other IPs, I can at least understand why some might feel it's appropriate for the park.

In terms of a ride however, the visuals portrayed onscreen aren't nearly as compelling in a ride format as the creative artistic and abstract designs seen in the original Imagination. But that's only one part of the problem with putting it in Imagination.

But there's also the mission statement of the experience. Inside Out is about emotion, and how emotion and memories connect and affect the way we lead our lives. Absolutely great concept in its own right and arguably an EPCOT worthy idea to explore, but Imagination isn't where it belongs. The Imaginationland portion of the movie is an exceedingly small part of the plot and creativity isn't the central point of the story. It's about emotion.

Journey Into Imagination's mission statement brilliantly fit with the rest of EPCOT Center. It could be called the "soul" of the park in fact. EPCOT sought to celebrate the progress we've made as a species. And Imagination explored the creative process behind that progress. Sparks of inspiration that drive creativity. Starting with abstract ideas in the first few scenes and exploring how we apply, expand and structure those sparks into creative endeavors such as literature and science. It's in the iconic lyrics-

One little spark, of inspiration
Is at the heart, of all creation
Right at the start, of everything that's new
One little spark, lights up for you

We all have sparks, imaginations
That's how our minds, create creations
For they can make, our wildest dreams come true
Those magic sparks, in me and you

While the loss of rides like World of Motion and Horizons was devastating, Imagination 1.0 being destroyed may well have been the most damaging. The park lost its soul. And honestly its loss speaks to a more sweeping problem that starting affecting Disney as a whole.

You mean Disneys creative bankruptcy brought on by Iger firing all the creative types in the company...

 

[Mabel Pines]

I am pretty young and never got to ride Journey Into the Imagination when it was apparently one of the best rides. I've been on the new version only once or twice, and it was so long ago I can hardly remember it. When I grew up a little and became interested in Disney's history I realized and can appreciate why so many people love him. I wish I could have that same sentiment and have tried to adopt it for myself but I just can't; it's not a part of my childhood. That being said, my personal interpretation of Figment is strange. I don't feel like he is a real disney character, I feel like he's this oddball outsider, even with knowing how special he once was. However I don't wish for the parks to be rid of him. It's just that for people younger than me, kids and teenagers today, I don't think they have any sense of who Figment is or what he's supposed to be, not in the current state of his attraction. I wish they could revitalize him somehow but I can't think of any way to do it without it feeling forced. If they do replace Journey and keep Figment in promotions and merch, I think that would make things worse and make his presence even more questionable

 

[Maeryk]

Yes back in the 80's and 90's. A family saving up for years and goes to WDW today would see Figment and likely respond with a shrug. I don't like it myself but that's just the way it is now.

Yeah.. but if you look at the limited edition Epcot merch that comes out every year for F&G, F&W, and FotA, it's not Duffy or Elsa on it.. it's Figment. Right up to dooney and burke bags.

If "nobody knows who he is", a lot of people are dropping coin on high end logo merch unaware of the character.

 

[ford91exploder]

Epcot isn't Fantasyland.

Not yet anyway, give Iger time and it will be.

 

[FigmentJedi]

There's concept art of it..But, it never happened...

It wasn't a full takeover plan, just headquartering the Perry the Platypus World Showcase game in the old camera shop rather then Innoventions or that cart.

 

[Notes from Neverland]

Regardless of what happens with this specific rumor, I think the anti-IP crowd will be in for a rude awakening when attendance grows at Epcot with the addition of Guardians, Ratatouille and the potential for an Inside Out attraction. The harsh reality is that those interested in protecting Epcot's past are the minority. The new attractions will come, people will love them and that's about where that conversation ends. It may be sad or upsetting for some, but it'll be extremely exciting for more.

 

[JohnD]

Hey Figment was horrible in the original and what about Dreamfinder? I swear if you talk negative about him!

We need to distinguish our Figments. The original Figment in Imagination 1.0 was inquisitive and full of wonder. Figment in Imagination 3.0 is a menace.

 

[Maeryk]

We need to distinguish our Figments. The original Figment in Imagination 1.0 was inquisitive and full of wonder. Figment in Imagination 3.0 is a menace.

I call em smooth figment vs plush figment.