IMO… the first Uncharted was not good….I thought Indy was Great
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Indiana Jones 5 Now Pushed Back to 2021
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Casper Gutman
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It hasn’t “escalated,” it’s circulating in the same self-reinforcing culture war outrage network where it’s been banging around for weeks - both Kelly and the NY Post are elements of it. It’s an obvious lie that they are trying to make real through repetition, and it makes its consumers feel good by feeding their hate so they accept it at face value. The story here is how efficient and predictable the culture war machine is. Not to put too fine a point on it, but if you don’t understand this, you’re a dupe or a liar.
ABQ
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The Nathan Fillion acted fan fic work was better. Had they used Emily Rose it would have been near perfect.
TP2000
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Indy 5 is going into its second weekend, and in Thursday previews it's losing market share to newcomers Sound of Freedom (???) and summer horror movie The Red Door. This weekend's box office should be interesting to note by Sunday evening.
Here's the tally from Thursday with evening previews for Red Door factored in.
Will Indy 5 fend off the competition in Weekend 2? Probably so, but not by much it seems.
Here's the tally from Thursday with evening previews for Red Door factored in.
Will Indy 5 fend off the competition in Weekend 2? Probably so, but not by much it seems.
TalkingHead
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Not like Deadline and Variety haven’t also written about Disney box office troubles. But par for the course to see a YouTuber taking credit like nobody else in the industry had noticed before his video went up.
Casper Gutman
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Nah, his video has popped up on these boards again… and again… and again… originally linked directly from his channel, where the flock had been directed, later funneled through one culture wars “news” source or another, always with this random twerp as the only source. His conclusions are nonsense, but that’s how the outrage engine works - it swallows up garbage from one YouTuber or twitterer and makes it the story through repetition across multiple outlets. Deadline and other trade outlets have covered the issue with nuance, context, intellectual honesty, and actual numbers, and as has been shown here, they demonstrate this guy is lying.
It’s not true because it “feels” true.
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Serpico Jones
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This is a complete disaster.
Phroobar
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Uncharted was bad but not as bad as this.
Wendy Pleakley
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Big drop in its' second weekend. Decent word of mouth has not translated into any sort of box office longevity.
Personally, I felt I'd regret not seeing the final Indy movie in the theater.
Personally, I felt I'd regret not seeing the final Indy movie in the theater.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
That could work for indy…only about $725 mil shy of break even…
Would
Canada do it? Can we get them some tix?
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Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
It flopped in week one…it flopped overseas
We’re not gonna do this again, are we?
Tentpoles have to get like 2/3 of their take in the first 21 days. If it’s not climbing to a billion by then…it’s toast.
I feel like “strong word of mouth” is like the new “anti-boogieman”…it can’t be verified at all…so it’s tossed out as being a thing and then fingers crossed to be proven right?
Tha Realest
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No, see, Disney+ is going to pay Lucasfilm $150M for the streaming rights, so it’s already in the black. Enough with the negativity.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I think bob should get on the phone and negotiate better terms…
He’s gonna need at least $650,000,000 from himself to claim victory on the next Q call
TP2000
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Second weekend results are just in for Indy 5. It dropped 56% from last weekend (but that was a holiday weekend), but that kind of drop after an already underperforming first weekend spells doom (get it?) for Indiana Jones 5. 
Disney's going to lose hundreds of millions on Indy 5, as it now faces Mission: Impossible in just a few days.
But the more interesting story here is how well Sound of Freedom has done, and I've read a few articles about it. It had a production budget of only $14 Million, and after Disney canned it and cut it adrift, it's marketing budget of only $5 Million was mostly donated by thousands of Americans who wanted this movie to see the light of day. The churches in America got the word out, and now the rest is history it seems. And notice the difference in theater count between it and Indy 5. Very interesting...
Weekend Domestic Box Office (July 7th, 8th, 9th)
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www.the-numbers.com
Disney's going to lose hundreds of millions on Indy 5, as it now faces Mission: Impossible in just a few days.
But the more interesting story here is how well Sound of Freedom has done, and I've read a few articles about it. It had a production budget of only $14 Million, and after Disney canned it and cut it adrift, it's marketing budget of only $5 Million was mostly donated by thousands of Americans who wanted this movie to see the light of day. The churches in America got the word out, and now the rest is history it seems. And notice the difference in theater count between it and Indy 5. Very interesting...
Weekend Domestic Box Office (July 7th, 8th, 9th)
The Numbers - Weekend Box Office Chart for August 2, 2024
Weekend Domestic Box Office Chart for the weekend of August 2, 2024
www.the-numbers.com
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Tha Realest
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So what? It’ll all be evened out after the D+ licensing fees and merchandise sales. You should have seen the fights in the aisles yesterday at Super Target for the Temple of Doom tuxedo throwback figure.Second weekend results are just in for Indy 5. It dropped 56% from last weekend (but that was a holiday weekend), but that kind of drop after an already underperforming first weekend spells doom (get it?) for Indiana Jones 5.
Disney's going to lose hundreds of millions on Indy 5, as it now faces Mission: Impossible in just a few days.
But the more interesting story here is how well Sound of Freedom has done, and I've read a few articles about it. It had a production budget of only $14 Million, and after Disney canned it and cut it adrift, it's marketing budget of only $5 Million was mostly donated by thousands of Americans who wanted this movie to see the light of day. The churches in America got the word out, and now the rest is history it seems. Very interesting...
Weekend Domestic Box Office (July 7th, 8th, 9th)
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MoonRakerSCM
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Last I knew, my parents were going to go see Indy... but per a conversation yesterday, they're no longer interested in seeing it.
They are set on seeing Mission Impossible though. What is interesting to me is the excitement in their voice about seeing Mission Impossible vs. Indy. Seeing Indy for them was sort of a chore- "Well, we'd like to see it".... Mission Impossible though is straight out "That looks great, can't wait to see it!"
They are set on seeing Mission Impossible though. What is interesting to me is the excitement in their voice about seeing Mission Impossible vs. Indy. Seeing Indy for them was sort of a chore- "Well, we'd like to see it".... Mission Impossible though is straight out "That looks great, can't wait to see it!"
TP2000
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Indy 5 has underwhelming domestic box office, but its overseas box office from Weekend #2 is just as underwhelming. It already opened in every overseas market 9 or 10 days ago, but the overseas market is not interested in Indy compared to their appetite for Crystal Skull 15 years ago.
Indy 5 has only made $3 Million in China the past 10 days, showing on 29,000 screens in that country. (I don't get how that even works, but that's what Disney is reporting).
Here's the trajectory graphs for Indy 5's domestic box office, way below escape velocity to profitability and far below Crystal Skull. And then the adjusted for inflation box office takes of domestic vs. overseas. And they spent at least $400 Million to produce and market this film?
www.the-numbers.com
Indy 5 has only made $3 Million in China the past 10 days, showing on 29,000 screens in that country. (I don't get how that even works, but that's what Disney is reporting).
Here's the trajectory graphs for Indy 5's domestic box office, way below escape velocity to profitability and far below Crystal Skull. And then the adjusted for inflation box office takes of domestic vs. overseas. And they spent at least $400 Million to produce and market this film?
Movie Comparison: Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023) vs. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008)
Domestic box office comparison between Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023) and Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008)
www.the-numbers.com
Phroobar
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Most of those Chinese theaters are showing pirated copies of the movie. So no cut for Disney on those.Indy 5 has underwhelming domestic box office, but its overseas box office from Weekend #2 is just as underwhelming. It already opened in every overseas market 9 or 10 days ago, but the overseas market is not interested in Indy compared to their appetite for Crystal Skull 15 years ago.
Indy 5 has only made $3 Million in China the past 10 days, showing on 29,000 screens in that country. (I don't get how that even works, but that's what Disney is reporting).
Here's the trajectory graphs for Indy 5's domestic box office, way below escape velocity to profitability and far below Crystal Skull. And then the adjusted for inflation box office takes of domestic vs. overseas. And they spent at least $400 Million to produce and market this film?
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Movie Comparison: Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023) vs. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008)
Domestic box office comparison between Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023) and Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008)
Phroobar
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The tuxedo Temple of Doom figure is my favorite.