Indiana Jones 5 Now Pushed Back to 2021

[MagicMouseFan]

Nobody wants more Chris Pratt either.

Sounds like you work for Disney…. Zero clue about what sells a film. Zero clue about target market.
look at mission impossible…. Getting crazy reviews. Tracking for a huge opening.
Disney looks at Indy franchise and says, “let’s get phoebe waller-bridge to bring in the girls and young adults and then give her the franchise”. What??? Why?
she was solid but she doesn’t sell tickets.

Chris Pratt gets butts in the seats.

 

[MagicMouseFan]

Possible, but its budget is just as high if not higher than Indy 5. So even it is going to have make over $800M to break even.

Mission impossible will make over 1 billion. Getting crazy reviews and everyone loved Tom Cruise‘s last film Maverick.

 

[MagicMouseFan]

Pratt is massively overexposed right now. That said, I still enjoy him… in the right projects, which he increasingly doesn’t pick. Pratt is a comedian - he excels as a well-meaning buffoon. That’s why he works in The LEGO Movie, Guardians, and above all Parks & Rec. When he takes straight action roles, he abandons the thing that makes him a likable performer. Indy isn’t precisely a straight action role, but Pratt wouldn’t work in it at all.

Ford is Indy. To continue the series, you need a new character and you need to get back to before WWII. The films have already provided the answer… Abner Ravenwood. As to casting, perhaps Oscar Isaac?

That’s why I think Pratt would be great as Indy.
First three Indy films are action/comedy. The humor/whimsical feel is outstanding. Right in Pratt‘s wheelhouse.

Last Indy film laces the charm, humor, whimsical feel of first three and that hurts the film. It’s an enjoyable but forgettable movie.
I don’t think there was one laugh out loud moment in the film.

 

[Disney Irish]

Mission impossible will make over 1 billion. Getting crazy reviews and everyone loved Tom Cruise‘s last film Maverick.

Maybe it will, Maybe it won't, this isn't Top Gun people aren't as nostalgic for the MI franchise. None of the others in the franchise hit $1B. MI:6 for example only got to $688M last time around.

But judging by current tracking its only going to make max $301M domestic. So unless overseas is going to be over $700M alone, domestic is going to have to come up a whole lot more to hit that $1B mark.

 

[TP2000]

Can someone explain this to me? Where did this Sound of Freedom movie come from? I had never heard of it until I went to look at the box office numbers for July 4th, but it debuted yesterday (very odd timing) and beat Indy by $3 Million.

I haven't seen advertising for Sound of Freedom, or if I did I tuned it out because it seems a rather serious and dark toned movie, which I rarely like. (I'm more of a Barbie person, especially in summer). And I've never heard of Angel Studios. And in only 2,600 theaters?

 

[TP2000]

phoebe waller bridge, who Lucasfilm wants as new Indy, doesn’t bring in an audience. No one young went to see her. Women didn’t go to see her. She was good in the film… but she isn’t an audience draw.
Kathleen Kennedy needs to be let go, a CEO needs to understand the target audience and she doesn’t. To her it’s all about replacing the male lead with females.
No one wanted phoebe waller bridge as new Indy, everyone wanted Chris Pratt.

I like that idea. Chris Pratt would have made a great Indy.

I have no idea why they keep trying to force young women into these established roles that have always been masculine men (Indy, Luke, James Bond, etc.) It just reads as so forced and eye-rollingly pandering to most people.

And the box office results keep proving it over and over again. And yet, Disney persists as if just one time they'll get a modest hit. Still waiting...

 

[MagicMouseFan]

Maybe it will, Maybe it won't, this isn't Top Gun people aren't as nostalgic for the MI franchise. None of the others in the franchise hit $1B. MI:6 for example only got to $688M last time around.

But judging by current tracking its only going to make max $301M domestic. So unless overseas is going to be over $700M alone, domestic is going to have to come up a whole lot more to hit that $1B mark.

My take is Tom cruise is known to deliver the goods and his last film Maverick was great theater experience. He is one of the last true movie stars. Movie has been tracking great for three weeks and the reviews have been outstanding.
It’s lining up to be the must see tent pole of the summer.
We will find out. If it doesn’t, then people have quit going to the movies. Way too much positive momentum for it to tank like Indy,Mermaid,Elemental did.
Mermaid stills needs to make 125 million to break even with Disney making 55% stateside ticket sales and 45% overseas.

Tom Cruise’s ‘Mission: Impossible — Dead Reckoning, Part One’ Sprinting Toward Franchise-Best $90M Opening

Cruise returns as Ethan Hunt in Paramount and Skydance's July tentpole, which opens three weeks from now.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

 

[TP2000]

Indy 5 opened in all overseas markets last Thursday/Friday. And its overseas take is less than its domestic take, as foreigners care even less about Indy than Americans do now. This won't end well after Disney spent $450 Million to produce and market this film globally.

 

[Disney Irish]

My take is Tom cruise is known to deliver the goods and his last film Maverick was great theater experience. He is one of the last true movie stars Movie has been tracking great for three weeks and the reviews have been outstanding.
It’s lining up to be the must see tent pole of the summer.
We will find out. If it doesn’t, then people have quit going to the movies. Way too much positive momentum for it to tank like Indy,Mermaid,Elemental did.
Mermaid stills needs to make 125 million to break even with Disney making 55% stateside ticket sales and 45% overseas.

Tom Cruise’s ‘Mission: Impossible — Dead Reckoning, Part One’ Sprinting Toward Franchise-Best $90M Opening

Cruise returns as Ethan Hunt in Paramount and Skydance's July tentpole, which opens three weeks from now.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

As I said, maybe it will and maybe it won't. This one is hard to judge overall, as again tracking isn't looking like a $1B movie a week from release. Maverick had a higher tracking at almost $400M, MI:7 is tracking almost $100M less.

So yeah we'll see.....

 

[MagicMouseFan]

98%

As I said, maybe it will and maybe it won't. This one is hard to judge overall, as again tracking isn't looking like a $1B movie a week from release. Maverick had a higher tracking at almost $400M, MI:7 is tracking almost $100M less.

So yeah we'll see.....

will the younger crowd show up? That’s the big question.

 

[MagicMouseFan]

You can’t buy this type of hype. https://www.showbiz411.com/2023/07/...cruise-back-to-save-movie-theaters-once-again

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

The new Mission Impossible should be very telling, if it stumbles also it’ll reinforce the idea that it’s an industry wide problem, if it succeeds it’s going to diminish that argument and place the attention back on Disney.

It‘s forecast for $300+ million domestic, let’s see if it gets there.

 

[ABQ]

Can someone explain this to me? Where did this Sound of Freedom movie come from? I had never heard of it until I went to look at the box office numbers for July 4th, but it debuted yesterday (very odd timing) and beat Indy by $3 Million.

I haven't seen advertising for Sound of Freedom, or if I did I tuned it out because it seems a rather serious and dark toned movie, which I rarely like. (I'm more of a Barbie person, especially in summer). And I've never heard of Angel Studios. And in only 2,600 theaters?


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Crowdfunded, and as it's described as a "faith based production" you know it's going to upset many that it even exists. I'd love to see it, as it's based on a non fiction story of a guy taking down those who traffic in young children if you can read between the lines, but it's also probably going to get me ticked off just watching it, even if the dirtbags get what they deserve.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Crowdfunded, and as it's described as a "faith based production" you know it's going to upset many that it even exists. I'd love to see it, as it's based on a non fiction story of a guy taking down those who traffic in young children if you can read between the lines, but it's also probably going to get me ticked off just watching it, even if the dirtbags get what they deserve.

The ironic thing is it was an already finished Fox movie when Disney bought them and they chose not to release it, it took the producers five years to wrangle the rights back from Disney so it could finally see the light of day.

I don’t think it’ll have any legs but it’s funny a movie Disney chose not to release outperformed Indy, one of their biggest releases of the year, even if only for a week.

 

[Disney Irish]

98%

will the younger crowd show up? That’s the big question.

Not just younger, but all audiences, its going to need a broad range of ages and demographics to reach $1B.

 

[ABQ]

The ironic thing is it was an already finished Fox movie when Disney bought them and they chose not to release it, it took the producers five years to wrangle the rights back from Disney so it could finally see the light of day.

That brings up a whole other tin foil hat conspiracy.

 

[MagicMouseFan]

The new Mission Impossible should be very telling, if it stumbles also it’ll reinforce the idea that it’s an industry wide problem, if it succeeds it’s going to diminish that argument and place the attention back on Disney.

It‘s forecast for $300+ million domestic, let’s see if it gets there.

Agree, mission impossible has everything going for it.
1. Amazing reviews
2. Movie had a true star that gets butts in the seats.
3. Last Cruise movie(Maverick)crushed it at the box office.
4. Mission impossible series hasn’t had a bad film and the last film in 2018 wasn’t that long ago so
Should have great momentum going in.
5. Cruise knows his audience and caters to that.

If this movie doesn’t work… Hollywood is in trouble.

 

[BuddyThomas]

Saw it this weekend. It is an extremely enjoyable film. It’s an Indiana Jones movie and contains everything that it needs to contain to be an Indiana Jones movie. Action. Adventure. Great chase sequences. Suspense. An amazing John Williams score. Etc. etc. The previous one was horrendous but this one redeems the franchise. I don’t understand the hatred or the gloating from all the usual suspects but then again, I don’t understand the hatred and the gloating from all the usual suspects on any number of threads here.

 

[Disney Irish]

Agree, mission impossible has everything going for it.
1. Amazing reviews
2. Movie had a true star that gets butts in the seats.
3. Last Cruise movie(Maverick)crushed it at the box office.
4. Mission impossible series hasn’t had a bad film and the last film in 2018 wasn’t that long ago so
Should have great momentum going in.
5. Cruise knows his audience and caters to that.

If this movie doesn’t work… Hollywood is in trouble.

I wouldn't say Hollywood is in trouble if MI:7 under performs. It means the landscape has changed, and streaming is a bigger factor than most realize or want to admit. So adjustments need to be made to expectations regarding BO long term as the industry changes to a streaming dominated world.

Other issue, its a part one of two. Are people going to want to see this one now and then wait a year to see the conclusion, or rather just wait and watch both next year.

 

[MagicMouseFan]

I wouldn't say Hollywood is in trouble if MI:7 under performs. It means the landscape has changed, and streaming is a bigger factor than most realize or want to admit. So adjustments need to be made to expectations regarding BO long term as the industry changes to a streaming dominated world.

I believe that is the ultimate direction.
convenience plays a big part. Easier to watch a film at home and there is solid entertainment on the small screen like Witcher, Silo, Ted Lasso.
Also very expensive to drive to theater and buy tickets,food,drinks for family of 4.
But I still feel people want a solid tent pole and family film.
Mario, Spider-Man, Maverick, guardians.
Give the audience what they want and they show up.
That said, my 11 year old girls have zero interest in going to the movies. I have to drag them to it. They enjoy the theater but would rather be on iPad watching YouTube videos or playing roblocks.

They do want to see Barbie though.
Took them to Mermaid. They said original is better.
Took them to Indy. They said they didn’t hate it but wasn’t as good as the old movies (Indy) I make them watch. Haha… Dad did the same thing to me.