Imagination upstairs work?

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planet7

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Pongo said:
Disney hasn't levelled the playing field if Disney is still bringing in the most crowds!
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If I had a genie, who could grant any wish--materialize things out of thin air, the works. You know, usual genie stuff. And you didn't have one, the playing field wouldn't be level between us. But if that genie just so happened to have a brother (or sister), and I gave that sibling to you, the playing field would be level. It wouldn't matter if you made poor choices with your wishes, you still would have the power to do anything with your genie that I could. And unless your choices were really, really poor, you'd still be better off than before you had a genie (this whole analogy assumes the genies don't go the tired old Monkey's Paw route).

Now what business in its right mind, would not only give away the genie's sibling, but the original and only genie--to both deny themselves of the genie's power, and give an able competitor an advantage?

It doesn't matter if Universal has fewer guests at present (if that's even the case, I don't have the numbers). The point here is that Disney has commoditized and made available to their competitors, one of their strongest assets. That's just insane, now matter how you spin it.

G7
 
wannab@dis

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planet7 said:
If I had a genie, who could grant any wish--materialize things out of thin air, the works. You know, usual genie stuff. And you didn't have one, the playing field wouldn't be level between us. But if that genie just so happened to have a brother (or sister), and I gave that sibling to you, the playing field would be level. It wouldn't matter if you made poor choices with your wishes, you still would have the power to do anything with your genie that I could. And unless your choices were really, really poor, you'd still be better off than before you had a genie (this whole analogy assumes the genies don't go the tired old Monkey's Paw route).

Now what business in its right mind, would not only give away the genie's sibling, but the original and only genie--to both deny themselves of the genie's power, and give an able competitor an advantage?

It doesn't matter if Universal has fewer guests at present (if that's even the case, I don't have the numbers). The point here is that Disney has commoditized and made available to their competitors, one of their strongest assets. That's just insane, now matter how you spin it.

G7
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99% of the spin around here is in your posts. Especially this one. It's almost laughable. Do you really think stockholders and sitting there waiting for a distribution of "magic"... or do you think maybe they want something a little more real?

Others have tried to do things the "Disney way" and copied as many facets of the Mouse's house as they can... However, they just can't build what Walt Disney World has today. Most of that is due to an overwhelming acceptance by the public. They DON'T want their local Six Flags to be as good as WDW. In the end, there's nothing about the public's intent or interest that can be "commoditized"... Eisner (and team) understood this factor and they built on it and have brought an empire to the forefront of the amusement park industry.

Their biggest mistake was sitting on their laurels with the animation group, but they had huge successes with Pixar. No matter how YOU try to spin your hatred of Eisner, you just can't prove to anyone with a little intelligence that Walt Disney World or TDC would have been better off without Michael Eisner.

In conclusion... I have to wonder why all your posts on this forum are always so negative? Have you ever tried the route of an optimist? If not, you should give it a go... you may actually enjoy life a little more and not be quite so bitter.
 
SirGoofy

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Hey, remember Imagination, what this thread is about?:lol: Come on guys let's stay on topic.So we know the Kim Possible is going upstairs, but I couldn't stop thinking about Dreamfinder and Figment, and what could help the failing attraction. I was thinking, what about a redesigned DF? One that isn't as creepy looking. Heck even one that is played by a celebrity. Someone like Will Ferrel would be perfect in my opinion. Someone who is loved by the older crowd, but is still funny and entertaining to the younger kids. Plus, it'll bring some exposure to the pavillion. It's the perfect situation in my opinion.
 
yensidtlaw1969

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Ok, so the old Imageworks room is being worked on to create a new Kim Possible meet and Greet. It shall be temporary. It shall open in August for a few weeks trial. If that is all we know, then I think with the way this thread is going no one should post anything until we have new information.


Yensid "Ofcourse I don't rule this thread, so feel free to disregard this suggestion, but we don't really seem to be much discussinng the work being done at Imagination anyway" tlaw1969
 
Epcot82Guy

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Everyone together!
IMAAAAAAAAAAAAAGINATION! IMAAAAAAAAAAAGINATION! A DREAM CAN BE A DREAM COME TRUE, WITH JUST THAT SPARK FROM ME AND YOU! IMAAAAAAAAAAGINATION! IMAAAAAAAAAAAGINATION!

:lookaroun

Anyway, I do wonder if this "test" might also lead to traffic flow upstairs. HUGE speculation, but this would be a nice way to see how the Kim thing works and see how people navigate upstairs under the current layout.
 
jedimaster1227

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SirGoofy said:
Hey, remember Imagination, what this thread is about?:lol: Come on guys let's stay on topic.So we know the Kim Possible is going upstairs, but I couldn't stop thinking about Dreamfinder and Figment, and what could help the failing attraction. I was thinking, what about a redesigned DF? One that isn't as creepy looking. Heck even one that is played by a celebrity. Someone like Will Ferrel would be perfect in my opinion. Someone who is loved by the older crowd, but is still funny and entertaining to the younger kids. Plus, it'll bring some exposure to the pavillion. It's the perfect situation in my opinion.
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You aren't the only one that has thought about giving the Dreamfinder a celebrity face. Fitzgerald is leaning towards that while Baxter and Lasseter want the Dreamfinder to have his original face. The list of celebrities considered for the Dreamfinder modernization include Martin Short and Robin Williams-to name a few.
 
SirGoofy

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jedimaster1227 said:
You aren't the only one that has thought about giving the Dreamfinder a celebrity face. Fitzgerald is leaning towards that while Baxter and Lasseter want the Dreamfinder to have his original face. The list of celebrities considered for the Dreamfinder modernization include Martin Short and Robin Williams-to name a few.
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Yea personally I think it's the better way to go. I love the original DF, but I don't think that's going to bring people back to the pavillion. Give DF a new, exciting face. I like the idea of Robin Williams, he would be great. I'm not big on Short though.
 
FigmentJedi

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Richard Attenborough would be an excellent Dreamfinder. As if his character in Jurassic Park wasn't already like Dreamfinder.
With Robin Williams as Dreamfinder, one of the first things that pops into my mind is "GOOD MORNING EPCOT CENTER!"
 
SirGoofy

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Tahu said:
Richard Attenborough would be an excellent Dreamfinder. As if his character in Jurassic Park wasn't already like Dreamfinder.
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He's Hammond right? If that's the case, I'd have to agree. He'd be a good fit. But I like the idea of a comedian.
 
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SirGoofy said:
He's Hammond right? If that's the case, I'd have to agree. He'd be a good fit. But I like the idea of a comedian.
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Me too- a comedian would make the pavilion more welcoming for families, plus he would make the character less creepy if there was humor involved!:lol:
 
jedimaster1227

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Tahu said:
Richard Attenborough would be an excellent Dreamfinder. As if his character in Jurassic Park wasn't already like Dreamfinder.
With Robin Williams as Dreamfinder, one of the first things that pops into my mind is "GOOD MORNING EPCOT CENTER!"
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Come to think of it, you are definitely right! Attenborough is an amazing actor and has always reminded me of the Dreamfinder, just a little more obsessed with his work.

If a face has to be assigned to the Dreamfinder, I would vote, Attenborough!

Me too- a comedian would make the pavilion more welcoming for families,
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Sortof like what Ellen did for Universe of Energy? :lol: :lookaroun :lol:
 
FigmentJedi

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Robin Williams is still a good choice though. Another thing I can hear Dreamfinder saying is "Carpe diem. Seize the day. Make your lives extraordinary."
 
imagineer boy

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Tahu said:
With Robin Williams as Dreamfinder, one of the first things that pops into my mind is "GOOD MORNING EPCOT CENTER!"
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Or how about "Seize the imagination!" :lol: Robin Williams would be pretty interesting as the voice of Dream Finder though. Richard Attenborogh would be great too. Touch decisions!

Personally, I liked the whole tie-in of the Imagination Institute with the ride, although it was poorly executed. If things were my way, I'd still have the tie-in with the Imagination institute and have the whole open house concept, while introducing Dream Finder at the same time. It just keeps with the whole Future World feel. Here's some ideas I wrote about it a long time ago:

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showpost.php?p=764753&postcount=1

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showpost.php?p=764791&postcount=3

BTW, I guess Eric Idle might not be up for yet another redoing of imagination. Perhaps a new character like someone else in the upper management of the imagination institute could do the tour.
 
FigmentJedi

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Wait, wait! I got another one! Sean Connery as Dreamfinder! That would be sweet! Then we can have Dreamfinder getting really ed off at Trebek over at Universe of Energy!
 
imagineer boy

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VillanovaBlue

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Pongo said:
Okay, we get it, you don't like Eisner. He's gone. Stop complaining about the past. You'll never get anywhere if you keep looking behind you. Disney has such a bright future ahead but all people can do is complain about what already happened and doesn't matter anymore.

It's called moving on.
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"Ya gotta put you're past behind ya!" - Timon
 
jedimaster1227

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imagineer boy said:
Eh, that's nothing compared to the whole Mel Gibson ordeal.

And as for Sean Connery doing the voice, I can just imagine:

Figment: Oh dream finder! I'm just great!

Dream Finder: Junior?!

Figment: Huh?!

Dream Finder: It is you Junior! I thought I'd lost ya boy!

Figment: Don't call me that please.
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:lol: That is my laugh of the day!:lol: Thank you for that genuine moment! :sohappy:
 
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