Scar Junior
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Haha. No I didn't miss the point of the movie. The marketing dept. did when it hyped the action scenes, SFX and put it on Imax. It was misleading. I thought it was a very good movie, just not worth $14.
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Haha. No I didn't miss the point of the movie. The marketing dept. did when it hyped the action scenes, SFX and put it on Imax. It was misleading. I thought it was a very good movie, just not worth $14.
JEDIsney
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:lol::lol::lol:
Don't forget some episodes of America's Got Talent! Oh wait, that's not on ABC, is it... :lookaroun Wait, is it? I'm actually not sure, I don't watch it.
Assuming that you've seen his video for Jump In My Car, have you also seen his video for Hooked On A Feeling? If not, you have to search for it on youtube. Just as awful, yet hilarious, as Jumpy In My Car.
JEDIsney
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That's great to hear. I'm also with you, the movie gest better after every time I watch it, even on DVD (it's only been out for 9 days and I've watched it 9 times... :lookaroun). But, even being somewhat "younger," I see myself as a very political person, and I enjoyed the movie so much as a movie that teaches, and also makes you think. But I also appreciated the fiction part of it.
That is very true, I agree. I'm the one who likes to make the comparisons, where as others don't. Not a big deal at all.
Instead, I'll apologize, because I've been doing it too much lately.
Back to the Imagination upstairs work...
JEDIsney
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I know I'm contradicting what I said in the post above me, but this is the last thing I'll say*
*unless someone comments back...
Though I am very jealous of you. I was supposed to go see it in IMAX in Atlantic City, but I never got to do it. I was, and still am, very upset. Maybe I should have taken your place, heh.
Okay, now back to the Imagination upstairs work! Hey, is there any way we could incorporate V for Vendetta with Imagination? :lookaroun
*unless someone comments back...
I'm sorry for assuming that you missed the point of the movie, and I'm also very glad that you didn't miss it. You are very right about the marketing department hyping up the movie, because they did it in the very wrong direction. The movie was not supposed to be seen as an action movie really, but I think the marketers showed it that way so that it would get it's money worth from those who wouldn't really appreciate the movie. If people who weren't movie savvy went to see it not knowing that it wasn't all about Parliament blowing up, and more about thoughts and ideas, then they probably wouldn't go to see it. So that's why the marketers probably showed it as an action movie, to get those who wouldn't normally see a movie like that to see it. I'm not sure if I'm making sense, but after re-reading what I just wrote, I understand what I'm saying, but that's just me.
Though I am very jealous of you. I was supposed to go see it in IMAX in Atlantic City, but I never got to do it. I was, and still am, very upset. Maybe I should have taken your place, heh.
Okay, now back to the Imagination upstairs work! Hey, is there any way we could incorporate V for Vendetta with Imagination? :lookaroun
Yeah whatever...
Either you work for the WDC or you're too young to know any better...
Scar Junior
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Considering the sentiment and jabs I heard regularly from CMs (about M.E.) when I was on the CP.... I'd be willing to bet that he doesn't work for Disney... just someone who reads Eisner's books.
planet7
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I can't speak for WEM1985, but I suspect that what he meant, was that he suspects Wannabe of "shilling" for Disney. The company allegedly monitors and uses shills on Disney message boards to add their own spin. I don't think Wannabe has that kind of skill (by a long shot), yet at least one other whom I'm almost certain was a paid shill, was even more abrasive and chaotic. So who knows.
G7
planet7
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I see we're talking about movies now. But on the subject of a celebrity as Dreamfinder, I think it's a bad idea, as I do the injection of celebrities into other Disney attractions. First and foremost, seeing a celebrity in a Disney attraction takes me out of the Disney experience, and reminds me of the "real world". The Disney parks were created to be immersive environments where you could temporarily forget about the outside world; WDW takes this to the extreme even, by physically removing you from the outside world more than any other property.
For me, it's hard to see the celebrity as the "character" they're playing. I thought about that earlier, and wondered why. After all, I've seen Robin Williams in numerous movies, and accepted him as whatever character he was playing. Yet when I heard his voice as TimeKeeper, I couldn't get the image of Williams as Williams out of my mind. Likewise Phylicia Rashad in CTX/Dinosaur was Phylica Rashad (or Claire Huxtable) to me. I finally concluded two things: one, we're in a sense "trained" to accept actors playing different roles within the context of television or film. When you take them out of that context, it messes with my perception and bit, and causes me to think about the actor rather than the character. There's also less character development in Disney attractions, as there simply isn't the time, focus, and emotional investment that there is in film (or even TV). Conversely, we're trained not to expect the "real world" to encroach upon the Disney experience. So the effect is easily doubled.
The other problem with using celebrities, is that they quickly become dated. In college, I took a creative writing class, and one of the things that particularly stuck in my mind, was the instructor warning us against using elements that tied to the story to a specific time (unless it was a historical/period piece). For example, using faddish slang, referencing then-current technology, etc., would limit the lifespan of our work, by "dating" it with current-period references. Celebrities do the same to Disney attractions. The "flavor of the month" won't be the flavor of next month. Look how celebrity-centric Disney-MGM studios started out, and see how short that lasted. Anyone remember the Bette Midler film?
I think that if Dreamfinder returns, he should be allowed to be his own person, through and through, without carrying the baggage of celebrity.
G7
For me, it's hard to see the celebrity as the "character" they're playing. I thought about that earlier, and wondered why. After all, I've seen Robin Williams in numerous movies, and accepted him as whatever character he was playing. Yet when I heard his voice as TimeKeeper, I couldn't get the image of Williams as Williams out of my mind. Likewise Phylicia Rashad in CTX/Dinosaur was Phylica Rashad (or Claire Huxtable) to me. I finally concluded two things: one, we're in a sense "trained" to accept actors playing different roles within the context of television or film. When you take them out of that context, it messes with my perception and bit, and causes me to think about the actor rather than the character. There's also less character development in Disney attractions, as there simply isn't the time, focus, and emotional investment that there is in film (or even TV). Conversely, we're trained not to expect the "real world" to encroach upon the Disney experience. So the effect is easily doubled.
The other problem with using celebrities, is that they quickly become dated. In college, I took a creative writing class, and one of the things that particularly stuck in my mind, was the instructor warning us against using elements that tied to the story to a specific time (unless it was a historical/period piece). For example, using faddish slang, referencing then-current technology, etc., would limit the lifespan of our work, by "dating" it with current-period references. Celebrities do the same to Disney attractions. The "flavor of the month" won't be the flavor of next month. Look how celebrity-centric Disney-MGM studios started out, and see how short that lasted. Anyone remember the Bette Midler film?
I think that if Dreamfinder returns, he should be allowed to be his own person, through and through, without carrying the baggage of celebrity.
G7
JEDIsney
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Music to my ears! Very well said. :sohappy:
planet7
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I ran across this image
I personally hope Dreamfinder does return--but I would pin all my hopes on a pin. (Pun somewhat intended).
G7
wannab@dis
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Nope... wrong once again. As I said earlier... the only SPIN going on is by you and the self-appointed Dreamfinder marketing crew. Believe what you want about Eisner et al, but it's apparent that your sentiments have little basis in fact. :wave:
imagineer boy
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Tell me about it. It had such bland cinematography, that the Imax experience wasn't that great after all. Other than that, I found the movie to be very boring ( and I like some movies with rather boring scenes like Gladiator ) and I thought it ripped off too much from 1984, Ferenheit 451, and THX 1138.
Anyways, back on topic.
Not in this one. Some people just can`t back down.
Baums101
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Most definitly true. I agree.Me thinks there is going to be something special happening in EPCOT in August, as there is another thread talking about Nemo and August. So I think something is going to happen.
Whatever it is, it's good.
planet7
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I never thought you were a shill. Like I said, you don't have skills. I think you're just a garden-variety Internet Troll.
G7
jedimaster1227
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I never thought you were a shill. Like I said, you don't have skills. I think you're just a garden-variety Internet Troll.
G7
Wow!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I count this as one of WDWMagic's most memorable moments during its ten year run! :sohappy:
JEDIsney
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:lol: Can I quote you on that one? It would look very nice in my signature!I never thought you were a shill. Like I said, you don't have skills. I think you're just a garden-variety Internet Troll.
I agree, and I've only been here a little over one year.
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