If you're banned for life, how does Disney keep track and enforce the ban?

NickMaio

Well-Known Member
Apology accepted!



Are you Nick or Charlie?



Someone's never heard of the word liability. Why won't Disney use this? The same reason that they never bothered to have their own police force, even though the RCID charter allows them to. The same reason Disney security vehicles have yellow strobes (instead of white or blue). LIABILITY.



Not the same type of monitoring, and also I'm well aware.



You have no idea how cheap Disney is.



No, this is reality.

THIS is fantasy land:

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And as always, GOOD AFTERNOON!

Ryan Reynolds Fun GIF by Apple TV+
Always a pleasure debating with a grown adult using gif's to get their point across.

Liability? Sure.
I'm done. Enjoy living in oblivion.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Yes they ended the public test......
So they must not be using it at all......
My mistake.

Good grief🫠.

Disney has nothing to loose and everything to gain from using this tech. It runs it self.
Unreal people.

Your own cell phone is keeping tabs and listening to you.
Disney is too cheap to use old software to track and monitor its patrons.
That's a fantasy land.
Your understanding of facial recognition is not aligned with the realities of the technology. The concept is old. Reliable systems with high efficacy really are not there, especially when it comes to people who are not white men. You’re demanding a logical fallacy, to disprove a negative. There is no evidence of Disney using the technologies you claim which you twist to being proof because there is no evidence that they are not. You’ve also made other claims easily shown to be false (the helicopters overhead are private tours not affiliated with Disney).
 

NickMaio

Well-Known Member
Your understanding of facial recognition is not aligned with the realities of the technology. The concept is old. Reliable systems with high efficacy really are not there, especially when it comes to people who are not white men. You’re demanding a logical fallacy, to disprove a negative. There is no evidence of Disney using the technologies you claim which you twist to being proof because there is no evidence that they are not. You’ve also made other claims easily shown to be false (the helicopters overhead are private tours not affiliated with Disney).

It's old but that s what I was referring to.
 

NickMaio

Well-Known Member
Your understanding of facial recognition is not aligned with the realities of the technology. The concept is old. Reliable systems with high efficacy really are not there, especially when it comes to people who are not white men. You’re demanding a logical fallacy, to disprove a negative. There is no evidence of Disney using the technologies you claim which you twist to being proof because there is no evidence that they are not. You’ve also made other claims easily shown to be false (the helicopters overhead are private tours not affiliated with Disney).
Private tours over the kingdom.....interesting indeed.
 

NickMaio

Well-Known Member
Your understanding of facial recognition is not aligned with the realities of the technology. The concept is old. Reliable systems with high efficacy really are not there, especially when it comes to people who are not white men. You’re demanding a logical fallacy, to disprove a negative. There is no evidence of Disney using the technologies you claim which you twist to being proof because there is no evidence that they are not. You’ve also made other claims easily shown to be false (the helicopters overhead are private tours not affiliated with Disney).
I could not find any tours advertising flights into the MK......just glimpses.

Sorry how was I proven wrong about the airspace again?.......
This is a side story to what we talking about....
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
I could not find any tours advertising flights into the MK......just glimpses.

Sorry how was I proven wrong about the airspace again?.......
This is a side story to what we talking about....
Your previous claims were that all of the airspace over Walt Disney World was closed. You also claimed that helicopters seen over the parks were actually Disney security. They may be a side story but they speak to your credibility as a source of information regarding Disney’s security apparatus. You posted an article to a fake new site as evidence of your claims.
 

NickMaio

Well-Known Member
Your previous claims were that all of the airspace over Walt Disney World was closed. You also claimed that helicopters seen over the parks were actually Disney security. They may be a side story but they speak to your credibility as a source of information regarding Disney’s security apparatus. You posted an article to a fake new site as evidence of your claims.
If you love to go back and Gollum through my posts you will see I was referring to the Magic Kingdom specifically. Not all of Disney property as it did not exist when they were given autonomy over that air space. Something that was never done before for any park in NA.

So how was a proven wrong. I suppose the Washington Post is a fake news site?
Do you have any credible American news papers anymore?
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Next time you are in the parks look up for the helicopter, that is doing sky surveillance and thermal imaging.

WDW owns the airspace above all of their properties in FL.

Those can NOT fly into WDW airspace as it is private. They can view property from the edge.

If you love to go back and Gollum through my posts you will see I was referring to the Magic Kingdom specifically. Not all of Disney property as it did not exist when they were given autonomy over that air space. Something that was never done before for any park in NA.

So how was a proven wrong. I suppose the Washington Post is a fake news site?
Do you have any credible American news papers anymore?
There they are, from just a few pages back. Took all of a minute to find.

In your gloating you’ve now made yet another false claim. The airspace over the Magic Kingdom was restricted following 9/11. All four parks were open when the airspace was restricted and Disney was given no autonomy or authority over the airspace, it is controlled by the federal government.
 

esskay

Well-Known Member
Thinking about it whatever they use would be subject to GDPR as they sell directly to UK/EU customers. So if someone from Europe was banned for life all Disney would have to scrub the data on that person either at their request, or within a 'reasonable' amount of time. That would include any kind of facial recognition or biometric data.

Whilst they could use the 'reasonable amount of time' argument to keep certain bits of data for a long time, if the person simply requested their data was removed based on them being banned and never intending to visit again they'd have to oblige. Said person could theoretically buy a ticket on their UK/EU site (remember they _shouldnt_ hold any details at that point to stop them), then rock up at the gates, and if it turned out they still had records of them being banned, Disney would then be liable.

Potential money making options there for anyone stupid enough to get banned 🤔
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
Thinking about it whatever they use would be subject to GDPR as they sell directly to UK/EU customers. So if someone from Europe was banned for life all Disney would have to scrub the data on that person either at their request, or within a 'reasonable' amount of time. That would include any kind of facial recognition or biometric data.

Whilst they could use the 'reasonable amount of time' argument to keep certain bits of data for a long time, if the person simply requested their data was removed based on them being banned and never intending to visit again they'd have to oblige. Said person could theoretically buy a ticket on their UK/EU site (remember they _shouldnt_ hold any details at that point to stop them), then rock up at the gates, and if it turned out they still had records of them being banned, Disney would then be liable.

Potential money making options there for anyone stupid enough to get banned 🤔

It seems that could only apply to UK/EU customers who purchased their vacations while in the UK/EU. However segregating between literally hundreds of thousands guests at any time would make it difficult to see who's who - so they probably just treat all guests as UK/EU for GDPR purposes, since there's no US law specifically prohibiting this.

But... thinking more about this, there is a California law that's similar to GDPR, and Disney is a California company. Soooo?
 

TalkToEthan

Well-Known Member
When Adam got banned he explained they took his finger prints.

Wait you mean Disney had his fingerprint already on file through his willful submission for passes, right??
There is no way Disney physically grabbed him and brought him in a room and held his hand down to get prints.......yes, I know you're not claiming that but nothing remotely close to that happened, right??
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
WDW owns the airspace above all of their properties in FL.
They “own“ nothing. The FAA restricts the airspace above the MK and EPCOT resort areas below 3000 ft. The boundary actual cuts through the southern end of World Showcase. Anything outside of that is open to usual considerations (although the amount of times an Epcot show has had to E stop the AmAd laser due to incursions at the north end is huge)
 
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Bullseye1967

Is that who I am?
Premium Member
Wait you mean Disney had his fingerprint already on file through his willful submission for passes, right??
There is no way Disney physically grabbed him and brought him in a room and held his hand down to get prints.......yes, I know you're not claiming that but nothing remotely close to that happened, right??
There is a big difference between Disney measuring the size and shape of your fingertip and taking your fingerprints. When you enter using your tickets or AP it is simply comparing the size and shape to the file it has. There are no actual fingerprints involved.
 

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