If you're banned for life, how does Disney keep track and enforce the ban?

[_caleb]

This was back in 2017.....

Disney Theme Park Researchers Unveil Face-Tracking Video Surveillance Software

Disney theme park researchers reveal a new software that can follow the same subject across a network of surveillance cameras.

www.commercialintegrator.com

This article is all about facial recognition and tracking of specific people across all parks.

If you think WDW, one of the most attended parks in the world, has the same security as your local mall, you are the most naive and ignorant person.
Think about it.
WDW has a lot to loose if they let in a known dangerous person or escaped fellow.

Get your heads out of the sand.

Of course Disney uses cameras that can recognize faces. But as we’ve mentioned (and shown evidence of), people routinely break into WDW property without being caught.
[I refuse to link to Matt Sonswa’s YouTube channel, but it’s found easily enough. His is not the only “urbex” channel there.]

People who have received a “lifetime ban” continue to circumvent security and gain access to the parks. The video I shared above showed a guy talking his way into DCA with some lame story and a photo of himself at MK!

Fights happen all the time at the parks, and it takes FOREVER for security to show up and do anything about it. Unruly guests are eventually removed from public areas, but it’s by people who are clearly not equipped to deal with dangerous people who might post a serious threat. (This is why local police stand by at the parks.)


The only evidence of your claims is “look up into the sky and see the silent helicopters that your cousin told you about conducting thermal imaging sweeps of the parking lot.“

 

[lazyboy97o]

Can you read English.......?
Facial recognition and tracking is utilized in Disney Parks.

You didn’t just claim they are using facial recognition but also about its pervasiveness, efficacy and implied connections to federal databases. All of which would be in public court records if your claims of many people apprehended at Walt Disney World were true.

Sorry, I could not find anything published about the helicopters.
Talk about semantics........
Use your common sense. Why else would a helicopter be flying around private airspace?

It is published. Aircraft have to registered with the FAA. There are companies that offer helicopter rides over the parks. Ever heard of bioreconstruct?

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[NickMaio]

You didn’t just claim they are using facial recognition but also about its pervasiveness, efficacy and implied connections to federal databases. All of which would be in public court records if your claims of many people apprehended at Walt Disney World were true.


It is published. Aircraft have to registered with the FAA. There are companies that offer helicopter rides over the parks. Ever heard of bioreconstruct?

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At International Heli Tours, you can see many of Orlando, Florida’s landmarks with a helicopter ride & sightseeing tour with us today! Check us out & book now!

www.orlandohelitours.com

Orlando Helicopter Tour from International Drive Area

See Orlando from the sky and gaze down at the famous Florida theme parks on a flight that’s perfect for you. With a range of helicopter flight options to suit all time schedules and budgets, you just need to sit back and enjoy the ride. Choose to fly over SeaWorld, Universal Studios, Disneyland...

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Those can NOT fly into WDW airspace as it is private. They can view property from the edge.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Those can NOT fly into WDW airspace as it is private. They can view property from the edge.

They can and do. The internet is full of pictures from these flights.

https://mobile.twitter.com/bioreconstruct

There is no such thing as private airspace. Reedy Creek Improvement District has no control over airspace. The restricted airspace is only a small area over the Magic Kingdom, limited in its height and it is very easy to receive permission to enter.

 

[Archie123]

I don't know what to say about the stealth helicopters, but the tech would make them practically impossible to see by the naked eye. If everyone could spot them flying above, then their purpose would be wasted.

As far as the military-style surveillance goes, have you ever really taken a close look around you while on Disney property?
Take one of my vacation photos for instance. What do you see?
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Now to zoom in...
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Enough said.

And if you zoom in even further....

 

[NickMaio]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/innovations/wp/2016/01/22/disney-loved-its-no-fly-zone-until-it-wanted-to-fly-its-own-drones/

 

[lazyboy97o]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/innovations/wp/2016/01/22/disney-loved-its-no-fly-zone-until-it-wanted-to-fly-its-own-drones/

You obviously didn’t bother to read the article. The very first sentence notes that the restricted airspace is over the Magic Kingdom and not all of Walt Disney World. The article is about Disney asking the federal government for changes. You don’t ask permission to enter your own house. If Disney controlled the airspace like you claim they would not have to ask for changes.

 

[Phonedave]

So you think that running through a literal parking lot is more exciting that a theme park... ok... Ironically, most people tend to complain about parking lot coasters.

Where did I say running through a parking lot was more exciting? Go re-read what I said.

I said I like to run in interesting places,

Interesting in this case meaning places other than a normal path or roadway, in fact I gave a few examples of such places. The fact that interesting was in quotes should have indicated to the most causal of readers that such places are not really interesting, just more interesting than normal running routes.

Regardless of the above, the whole point was that even if I do enjoy running in non-traditional areas (is that clearer to you than "interesting") I still would not consider running in a closed park something that is acceptable.

What is a 'parking lot coaster' that you refer to?

 

[Phonedave]

Those can NOT fly into WDW airspace as it is private. They can view property from the edge.

It is not private airspace. it is restricted airspace. Restricted by the FAA. The FAA restricts access to airspace for all sorts of reasons. If you want to enter that airspace, you ask. If the FAA determines that it is OK, then they permit it.

WDW launches fireworks multiple times a day, that right there is on good reason why the FAA does not want people going through that airspace without permission.

 

[larryz]

The restricted airspace is only a small area over the Magic Kingdom, limited in its height and it is very easy to receive permission to enter.

Further details are at https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_4_3634.html but in summary -- the permanent temporary flight restriction area is a 6-nm-wide cylinder from ground level to 3,000 feet centered on 28º24'45"N, 81º34'20"W.

 

[Giss Neric]

Latest banning news LOL! This is getting ridiculous.

Disney needs to start making use of those swamps full of gators way out in the property and throw these people there.

 

[_caleb]

Latest banning news LOL! This is getting ridiculous.

Disney needs to start making use of those swamps full of gators way out in the property and throw these people there.

Don’t worry, Disney Security’s Special Investigations Lab has surely analyzed a sample of the man’s saliva and will add his unique DNA markers to their database of banned guests. They will use this to identify him if he licks an envelope when requesting park tickets by mail. Nobody gets through Disney Security!

 

[larryz]

Looks like he was channeling his inner Grumpy. Well, he's had six weeks to think it over -- I wonder if he's still spitting mad?

 

[graphite1326]

I had to get a new identity so I could go again.

 

[graphite1326]

It is not private airspace. it is restricted airspace. Restricted by the FAA. The FAA restricts access to airspace for all sorts of reasons. If you want to enter that airspace, you ask. If the FAA determines that it is OK, then they permit it.

WDW launches fireworks multiple times a day, that right there is on good reason why the FAA does not want people going through that airspace without permission.

I live not too far from Covington, Pa where there is NO air travel.

 

[Phonedave]

Further details are at https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_4_3634.html but in summary -- the permanent temporary flight restriction area is a 6-nm-wide cylinder from ground level to 3,000 feet centered on 28º24'45"N, 81º34'20"W.
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Particularly notable is the language in the Notice to Airmen

THE RESTRICTIONS DO NOT APPLY TO THOSE AIRCRAFT AUTHORIZED BY AND IN CONTACT WITH ATC FOR OPERATIONAL OR SAFETY OF FLIGHT PURPOSES, DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND AIR AMBULANCE FLIGHT OPERATIONS. FLIGHTS CONDUCTED FOR OPERATIONAL PURPOSES OF ANY DISNEY WORLD EVENT AND VENUE ARE AUTHORIZED WITH AN APPROVED WAIVER. AN FAA AIRSPACE WAIVER DOES NOT RELIEVE OPERATORS FROM OBTAINING ALL OTHER NECESSARY

Even Disney has to apply for a waiver from the FAA to use this airspace. So all of those invisible, silent, choppers have to get permission from the FAA to fly over WDW and do their nefarious thermal scans.

 

[Phonedave]

I live not too far from Covington, Pa where there is NO air travel.

Why is there no air travel by Covington? Aside from it being in the middle of nowhere.

 

[larryz]

Even Disney has to apply for a waiver from the FAA to use this airspace. So all of those invisible, silent, choppers have to get permission from the FAA to fly over WDW and do their nefarious thermal scans.

Their IR scanners have telephonic lenses, so they can see what's going on from outside the TFR.

 

[graphite1326]

Why is there no air travel by Covington? Aside from it being in the middle of nowhere.

LOL. I was waiting for someone to comment. It's from the movie "The Village" which is set in Covington. One of the he main characters (William Hurt) used his influence to ban all air travel over his "village". The comment I made was a joke.

 

[Lilofan]

Latest banning news LOL! This is getting ridiculous.

Disney needs to start making use of those swamps full of gators way out in the property and throw these people there.

If you saw the arrest mugshot of the guest who spit on the cast member, he would need a XXL mask due to his father time beard.