Idea!

[imagineer boy]

Originally posted by meeko_33785
Here's an outline of the paradfe I mentioned earlier. It's pretty rough, but here's some basic ideas I had.

I- Sorcerer's Apprentice- Mickey stands on on a platform. When the float stops the platform rises when he puts on the magic hat. Magic Brooms and performers in blue water-themed costumes dance around the float.
II- Little Mermaid- the water theme in the Socere's Apprentice leads to the Under Sea world of the Little Mermaid. Areil sits on a rock while Sabastian and Flounder look on. Prince Eric and Max stad on the back of the float. When the parade stops, smoke errupts around Ariel and she appears as a human.
III- Peter Pan and Wendy stand on a float that looks like the London skyline. Tinker Bell appears in a glass buble on the top of the float and when the parade stops, the buble fills with pixie dust.
IV- The Lion King- Simba is featured on this float that looks like Pride Rock. When the parade stops, a sun rises behind his head, symbolizes the mane he will get as an an adult when he is king.
V- Princesses- A fantasy Castle is the setting for this float. Belle, Snow White, and Belle stand on this float with the Princes watching them from the upper level of the float. When the parade stops, the three Princes join the Princesses in a waltz.
VI- Aladdin- This float reacreates the streets of Agrabah where Aladdin and Abu sit holding the Magic Lamp. When the float stops, the Genine appears and performs Friend Like Me.
VII- The finale. This float is somewhat abstract made of swirling "magic" and features Minnie, Donald, Goofy, Pluto, and many of their friends celebrating fantasies coming reality.

Well this is just a rough brainstorm and most likely there will be smaller character units between the floats to flush out the parade. Anyway, from this, what do you think?

It sounds good, although there are a few things,

1. Don't have Arial change into a human constantly because it would be hard for the actor and she would then have to change back into a mermaid again. Just keep her there as she is and have bubbles come from the float when it stops.

2. Same with Geenie.

3. Don't have musical #s be performed all the time when they stop because there would be music blasting from floats all over main st. and there would be a very werd and unusual mix of music.

The rest sounds good.

 

[meeko_33785]

Originally posted by imagineer boy
It sounds good, although there are a few things,

1. Don't have Arial change into a human constantly because it would be hard for the actor and she would then have to change back into a mermaid again. Just keep her there as she is and have bubbles come from the float when it stops.

2. Same with Geenie.

3. Don't have musical #s be performed all the time when they stop because there would be music blasting from floats all over main st. and there would be a very werd and unusual mix of music.

The rest sounds good.

If you know how the MK parades work where the floats stop and do a musical number at about five different points along the parade route, this will be like that. It should work.

I see your problem with the Aladdin unit. Insteed I think the float should look more like the Treasure Room in the Cave of Wonders and have Genine just always be there and not just appear when the float stops.

As for Ariel, I really think the transformation effect would work. Basically, she's sitting in a giant clam shell with her fin handing down. However, Ariel's legs arn't really in the fin, but under the clam shell. When the float stops and the number bebins, smoke surrounds the clam shell and her fin drops into the flaot. While this is happening, Ariel slips her legs from their hiding place and slips on a blouse top over her costume. At the end of the number, Ariel and Eric stand on the float and wave until they have gotten far enough that they cannot be seen by anyone that saw the transformation. They both go inside the float. Eric returns to his position and Ariel reappears and slides in when a door in the back of the clam shell opens up. Maybe this explains it better so we can deside if this would really work.

 

[FigmentDream]

I think the preparation part on the LM float would be too hard to pull off cause some group of people would see them go back into the float or what not or not see the characters while they are re-preparing; I think that not having certain portions of the parade route miss out on this is unacceptable. I say just loose the transition.

Other than that this parade is okay, but it seems just like an A-typical parade, which is okay but to be honest it really doesn't excite me........

 

[imagineer boy]

Which reminds me, what rides are going to have Fast pass? In Tomorrowland, I suppose that HISTA, Space Mountain, Buzz Lightyear's Astro Blasters, and Autopia. I'm not sure if Aquatopia should have one, Time Master won't because it will have two theaters, so it would load really quickly, and same with AE.
In Toon Town, Roger Rabbit's Car-Toon Adventure would be fast passed. What do you think? What rides should your lands have fastpassed?

 

[meeko_33785]

I see your point about the LM float. Insteed of the transformation, we could do something else like the floating bubbles metioned by imageneer boy in an earlier post.

As for it being an A-typical parade, I don't see a problem with it. First, since it is the Magic Kingdom, I think a parade with a sort of fantasy Disney theme would be most fitting. Also, I think it would be especially good for this park since the Blazin' Rythems is extreemly untraditional for an MK park, so the parade could be used to bring more of a traditional DIsney feel to the entertainment and the entire park. Besides, the amount of special effects in the parade should make it more than just a basic MK Parade.

For Fastpass, I think Fantasyland would probably need Fastpass on Peter Pan, Winnie the Pooh, and Mr. Toad. Beauty and the Beast might, but I'm apprehensive about since the entrance will be in the Castle. Having the FastPass kiosks inside the Castle just seems tacky to me. I don't really think its necissary for either Autopia or Aquatopia though. Most Disney parks have 5 to 10 FastPass attractions and with just three lands we have close to that many. I'm sure that Indiana Jones, Spalsh Mountain, BTMRR, HM, the Excevator, and possibly Jungle Cruise could need them too. That may be too many FastPass attractions. Just a though.

 

[imagineer boy]

Originally posted by meeko_33785
I see your point about the LM float. Insteed of the transformation, we could do something else like the floating bubbles metioned by imageneer boy in an earlier post.

As for it being an A-typical parade, I don't see a problem with it. First, since it is the Magic Kingdom, I think a parade with a sort of fantasy Disney theme would be most fitting. Also, I think it would be especially good for this park since the Blazin' Rythems is extreemly untraditional for an MK park, so the parade could be used to bring more of a traditional DIsney feel to the entertainment and the entire park. Besides, the amount of special effects in the parade should make it more than just a basic MK Parade.

For Fastpass, I think Fantasyland would probably need Fastpass on Peter Pan, Winnie the Pooh, and Mr. Toad. Beauty and the Beast might, but I'm apprehensive about since the entrance will be in the Castle. Having the FastPass kiosks inside the Castle just seems tacky to me. I don't really think its necissary for either Autopia or Aquatopia though. Most Disney parks have 5 to 10 FastPass attractions and with just three lands we have close to that many. I'm sure that Indiana Jones, Spalsh Mountain, BTMRR, HM, the Excevator, and possibly Jungle Cruise could need them too. That may be too many FastPass attractions. Just a though.

I guess Autopia or Aquatopia doesn't need fast pass. About eh fast pass machines in the castle, just make them look like somting in the castle. Blend it in with the machine. Sort of like the FP, at HM are made to look like tomb stones. Somthing like that.

 

[FigmentDream]

Originally posted by meeko_33785


As for it being an A-typical parade, I don't see a problem with it. First, since it is the Magic Kingdom, I think a parade with a sort of fantasy Disney theme would be most fitting. Also, I think it would be especially good for this park since the Blazin' Rythems is extreemly untraditional for an MK park, so the parade could be used to bring more of a traditional DIsney feel to the entertainment and the entire park. Besides, the amount of special effects in the parade should make it more than just a basic MK Parade.

The theme is fine and general content, just the manner in which you have it presented in I think could use a little more originality. Like the 100 Years of Magic parade has snow globe floats, you just need a hook like that.....

 

[meeko_33785]

Originally posted by FigmentDream
The theme is fine and general content, just the manner in which you have it presented in I think could use a little more originality. Like the 100 Years of Magic parade has snow globe floats, you just need a hook like that.....

I think I see what you mean. I thought that the special effects that would occour when the floats stoped (the rising platform on the Mickey float, the glitter globe on the Peter Pan float, the fiber optics on the Princess float, ect.) would make it more original, but since the Genie and Ariel scenes got nixed, it does seem fairly basic. I'll have to think of a way to tie them in together with a more original concept now. I also think that maybe it would be better to, insteed of doing the whole bit where the parade stops, to just have more floats and just have the parade run constant with no stops. What does everyone think?

 

[imagineer boy]

Originally posted by meeko_33785
I think I see what you mean. I thought that the special effects that would occour when the floats stoped (the rising platform on the Mickey float, the glitter globe on the Peter Pan float, the fiber optics on the Princess float, ect.) would make it more original, but since the Genie and Ariel scenes got nixed, it does seem fairly basic. I'll have to think of a way to tie them in together with a more original concept now. I also think that maybe it would be better to, insteed of doing the whole bit where the parade stops, to just have more floats and just have the parade run constant with no stops. What does everyone think?

Well, maybe you should have a part where the floats stop, but have the characters walking around, the characters could do somthing with the kids. The floats need a scheme of some sort to make this parade unique. Sort of like the snow globes.

 

[imagineer boy]

Now, I know I'm not the one in charge of Main Street, but I have posted a picture in the pictures thread in Chit Chat section. It is a picture of what I think the Main Street Train Station should look like. It is actually a picture of my home town train station which has been around since the 1800s. What do you think?

 

[Wannabe Walt]

The fastpass rides in Adventureland will be Jungle Cruise, The Excavator, and Indiana Jones and the Temple of Mawsea. Frontierland's will be Big Thunder Mountain Railroad, Haunted Mansion, and Splash Mountain.

 

[meeko_33785]

Originally posted by imagineer boy
Now, I know I'm not the one in charge of Main Street, but I have posted a picture in the pictures thread in Chit Chat section. It is a picture of what I think the Main Street Train Station should look like. It is actually a picture of my home town train station which has been around since the 1800s. What do you think?

Looks pretty good. I think some alterations would need to be made, as well as color changes, but this could work as an inspiration. I'll get back to you on that with maybe a sketch or something.

 

[meeko_33785]

I had another thought for what will happen when the Little Mermaid float stops. Insteed of using the complicated transformation scene I mentioned earlier, I thought I would switch it with this version. Insteed of sitting in the clam shell, Ariel would be sitting on a rock. When the float stops Ariel would start singing "Part of Your World". As she did this, the dancers would come of the float and dress her up like a humam, slipping a puff-sleaved blouse on her and a large piece of fabric that is wrapped around her waist and would drape over a rock, giving the apperence she is wearing a huge hoop skirt. In reality, Ariel's legs are not in the fin, but she is sitting inside the rock wearing a skirt that matches the blouse she is wearing. When the "skirt" is draped over her, a mechanism turns the front of the rock and when the front of the large outer skirt is taken off, a human Ariel sits on the rock. WHen the scene is done, she would sit back down, they would bring the large skirt back up, let the front of the rock spin back, take off the blouse that she was wearing, and when the skirt is taken off again, she is back to being a mermaid. This idea sound better?

 

[FigmentDream]

That's better, but there is still no cohesive hook to your parade....

 

[meeko_33785]

I was thinking about a possible hook for the parade. The original theme for the parade was sort of a "Dreams Come True" sort of theme where when the parade stopped, the dreams of the chararacters on the float would come true (Sorcerer Mickey directs the brooms, Ariel becomes a human, the Princesses meet their Princes, ect.). I was hoping this could be a cohesive enough theme. If not, I was thinking maybe I could alter the floats to look like the scenes are comming out of giant storybooks and unite the parade with a storybook fantasy kind of theme. Just a though.

 

[FigmentDream]

I like the story book idea

 

[WeirdOne]

I actually wanted to see a parade called "Legacy In Dreams" that I came up with come down the street. It'd be a big tribute to Walt Disney. It would start with a black and white section of floats rolling along the route and stopping. The main theme song would play and the floats would magically change from black and white to color with the help of dropping drapes, etc and the characters would disappear behind spinning doors and change to color before perforing a show and then they would freeze at the end and everything would change back to black and white in front of the audience and it'd move along. The next section would be featuring animals in movies like Aristocats, Alice, etc and they'd do their number, but it'd be a more jazzy broadway type number. Then come the villians with their evil-dreams with the Evil Queen having the greatest float because she started it all in villiany. Then comes the show business finale. There would be many floats, the last one being the MK castle. When the number would start, they'd tap dance, sing "Hooray For Hollywood", "That's Entertainment", and other stuff before every float has a gold type shimmering curtain dropped that covers the sets while "Mickey Mouse, Our Shining Star" is performed, and the whole parade ends with the Mickey and Walt holding hands and having dialouge set to "When you Wish Upon a Star".

So, what kind of thoughts do you guys have on this? I'd like to chip in on the parade here. By the way, what is our nighttime parade if any? - The WeirdOne

 

[meeko_33785]

Originally posted by WeirdOne
I actually wanted to see a parade called "Legacy In Dreams" that I came up with come down the street. It'd be a big tribute to Walt Disney. It would start with a black and white section of floats rolling along the route and stopping. The main theme song would play and the floats would magically change from black and white to color with the help of dropping drapes, etc and the characters would disappear behind spinning doors and change to color before perforing a show and then they would freeze at the end and everything would change back to black and white in front of the audience and it'd move along. The next section would be featuring animals in movies like Aristocats, Alice, etc and they'd do their number, but it'd be a more jazzy broadway type number. Then come the villians with their evil-dreams with the Evil Queen having the greatest float because she started it all in villiany. Then comes the show business finale. There would be many floats, the last one being the MK castle. When the number would start, they'd tap dance, sing "Hooray For Hollywood", "That's Entertainment", and other stuff before every float has a gold type shimmering curtain dropped that covers the sets while "Mickey Mouse, Our Shining Star" is performed, and the whole parade ends with the Mickey and Walt holding hands and having dialouge set to "When you Wish Upon a Star".

So, what kind of thoughts do you guys have on this? I'd like to chip in on the parade here. By the way, what is our nighttime parade if any? - The WeirdOne

I think this would make a better night parade than a day parade. The black and white to color switch would be much more effective in lights than with drapes. I'm not so sure about ending with Walt and Mickey having dialogue, though. It seems cheesy and (unfortunatly) many people now a days don't know what Walt looks like. Besides, Walt was very much against having an audio-animatronic or show of or about him in the parks. The theme could work, but I would just change that one part at the end.

Also, I think for the nighttime parade, I think it should probably just run on Fri-Sunday through most of the year with more, possibly 7 days a week, during the summer months, the holidays, spring break, ect. Since it would require a good number of performers in addition to the many we already have doing Blazin Rythms.

 

[meeko_33785]

Originally posted by FigmentDream
I like the story book idea

Great. We'll make the theme sort of Storybook fantasy while still keeping the dreams come true theme in there as well. The first six units will all use giant storybooks as the backdrops to the action on the float. The final float will feature the Blue Fairy rising above a collection of many smaller storybooks, each of which has a picture of a Disney character's dream comming true. Pinocchio would also be sitting on the float and there would be a number of classic characters marching in front of the float as well. I think we can keep the float stops as well and also have smaller walking character units between the floats as well. I'll post some more info about the parade as soon as I can.

 

[WeirdOne]

It's not really drapes to be honest, it's really like a giant set change, but on a parade. As for the end, again, it's all debatable. The theme flows like this:

Black --> Color = Theme of Mickey's Dream coming true.
Animals ---> Animals = Theme of Dreams coming true with friends.
Villians ---> Evil = Theme of Evil Dreams.
Show Business ---> Mickey = Theme of Walt's Dream.

Mine is actually a very good parade and more effective in the daytime I would think. - The WeirdOne