WDW1974
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You mean the day when he didn't want his photo taken with Imagination behind him?
;-)
I thought he didn't want his photo taken with that hillbilly ... oh yeah, that wuz you! Nevermind ...
You mean the day when he didn't want his photo taken with Imagination behind him?
;-)
No offense to Imagination, but shouldn't they be more concerned about fixing IMAGINEERING.
If Disney can look outside themed entertainment and bring back the Rensainsance Man culture that permeates in companies like Google and Pixar today, they can (which is absolutely easier said than done). But like you, I am not sure how possible it is for that to happen with the current leadership and John spread over too much bread.I am not sure that is possible at this point ...
Yes. If he sticks with WDI long enough.Fantastic, any chance of Tony leading an overhaul of Imagination! and a return to it's former glory then?![]()
Sure it is.I am not sure that is possible at this point ...
Er, Imagineering may not have as many of the top people, but they still have a ton of incredibly creative, imaginative talent spread out on various projects, including a few of the originals like Tony. The same people who built HP/FJ and TDS (widely considered to be the best of recent years) are still in or around the industry, and various people come and go through WDI and UCreative. It's a matter of letting them do their best work with supportive management and the requisite budget and timelines to allow that creativity to result in something tangible. And fun.The reason why Imagination Pavilion isn't working is because Disney has lost it's base of talent that actually had imagination. That were able to see things that others didn't realize that they saw and point it out to us in an interesting and different way. So in that sense, he is correct, if that is what he meant by it.
Either way...it is true. It either isn't working in it's present form or it can never work because no one knows how to make it work. Both are probably true, sadly!![]()
Er, Imagineering may not have as many of the top people, but they still have a ton of incredibly creative, imaginative talent spread out on various projects, including a few of the originals like Tony. The same people who built HP/FJ and TDS (widely considered to be the best of recent years) are still in or around the industry, and various people come and go through WDI and UCreative. It's a matter of letting them do their best work with supportive management and the requisite budget and timelines to allow that creativity to result in something tangible. And fun.
"I don't think the Imagination pavilion works anymore. I'm going to be forthright about that. I think the difference we had between Figment and Dreamfinder, representing knowledge and the unbridled enthusiasm of a child, was very clear to people. It spoke and it resonated. They've tried to bring Figment back, bit it's like having a comedian play against a comedian, with Nigel Channing. It's like Hardy and Hardy instead of Laurel and Hardy. You've got to have a good play between the characters, and I think people go through there and they don't understand what it's about. All of us go through this imagination process, and I thought that was an extraordinary topic to handle and put out there, and it kind of skirts the issue of what it is today."
http://www.themeparkinsider.com/flume/201211/3265/
An understatement, but it is refreshing hearing something bluntly honest for once.
The reason why Imagination Pavilion isn't working is because Disney has lost it's base of talent that actually had imagination.
To be fair, i am positive there are indeed still a lot of highly creative folks working within Disney, but their hands are often tied by management and budget constraints. In the next few years i hope they are given a little more rein, as i think CarsLand proved magic can happen if they can have their way.
I am not sure that is possible at this point ...
I am not sure that is possible at this point ...
If Disney can look outside themed entertainment and bring back the Rensainsance Man culture that permeates in companies like Google and Pixar today, they can (which is absolutely easier said than done). But like you, I am not sure how possible it is for that to happen with the current leadership and John spread over too much bread.
Google (less so by far) and Pixar were built with a culture of quality bred into them. ... Now, you may say so was Disney, which would be true, but it was taken over and basically destroyed by non-creatives getting power and people being hired for all the wrong reasons and is basically known for having bad pixie dust now.
Nothing is ever impossible when people put their minds and efforts together at change, but there isn't even a desire to do so on a grassroots level ... and the toxicity at 1401 Flower is stronger now than it was 10 or 15 years ago (and it was bad then too!)
Yes. If he sticks with WDI long enough.
How does John factor into all of this?
Oh sorry, I should clarify. Within the context of WDI politics and his views on the current state of WDI.He made a visit to the pavilion recently. Could have meant something but probably means nothing.
... Tony cut Eric off when Eric was having difficulty 'splaining why attractions go in specific parks and why there's a difference between the MK and EPCOT.
Most at WDI wouwd like Tony to have been gone years ago, sadly.
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