If Tampa or St Pete got hit with a Cat 4 just recall in 2018 that a Cat4/5 landed in Mexico Beach and Homestead 1992. There was nothing left in many parts of those town/city.
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Hurricane Milton coming to FL
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We had early smart phones and internet on our phones before smart phones. There was also tv news and The Weather channel and news before people even got to their destination.
Radios obviously everywhere.
Not on ours Nothing like immediate in your face news on iPhones like today.
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Lots of people traveled with laptops too and all the rooms had at least ethernet connections by then.
In 04’ that’s farther from the truth ( laptops , flip phones with internet etc ) . Traveled with laptops in 2004? Not us or anyone we knew. I didn’t notice anyone with laptops in the parks in 04’ also.
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Vacationeer
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- In the Parks
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Even in today’s world we sometimes detach from reality at WDW. The big headlines are still there when we get home. We intentionally stay out of touch. In that case it would still be highly likely something alerts us to the threat, either text from family or seeing preparations in the parks and overhearing conversations.
MDE even has a warning posted:
MDE even has a warning posted:
It’s vague. Now with instant access via smartphones one can tune into any news source to get the real nitty gritty. Not just the statement we’re monitoring.
Tom P.
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The iPhone was not released until 2007. That was the turning point; the game changer. Yes, cell phones existed before then. Yes, there were early versions of what we would today call a smartphone, such as the BlackBerry. But they were not by any means ubiquitous. And the key difference is that no one spent their day glued to their phones like they do today.
It was only 20 years ago, but it was an entirely different world in terms of the connection people had to technology. Yes, you could turn on cable news in your resort room. And yes, some people had laptops with them. But this is Walt Disney World. People weren't on business trips. They were on vacations. Most would not be checking in with their technology. Many would tune out the news. And definitely no one was getting real time updates in the parks.
The invention of the iPhone -- followed by the release of the far superior Android devices -- quite literally changed the world.
Thank you for your post to help others understand. I remember reading over 1K emails on ccmail when I got back to work too!
DisneyDreamerxyz
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At value resorts or any resort where your door opens to the outside guests are told to stay in their rooms and call for assistance if needed however for cast members safety they are also not allowed to go out in unsafe weather to assist guests. Typically during the buildup to the storm they will do special activities in the lobby for children including extra character meetings etc but during peak bad weather guests are not allowed in the lobby or main building and will be told to stay in their room
What? Of course nobody brought laptops to the parks. People did bring laptops on trips to have access to a computer.
By the end of 2003 every Disney hotel above value tier had ethernet access, which cost $9.95 for the day.
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In 99’ Coronado stepped up and sent us all letters in our rooms that to evacuate to convention center and bring pillows and blankets and we slept on the carpeted convention center with thousands of others . Much safer than to ride out a hurricane in your hotel room with an exterior door and big bay window. Not even 911 assistance will come in a huge storm.
Gringrinngghost
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Time for more Synoptic Surveillance.
Gringrinngghost
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WTNT34 KNHC 070857
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BULLETIN
Hurricane Milton Advisory Number 8
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL142024
400 AM CDT Mon Oct 07 2024
...MILTON STRENGTHENING OVER THE SOUTHERN GULF OF MEXICO...
...STORM SURGE AND HURRICANE WATCHES ISSUED FOR PORTIONS OF
FLORIDA...
SUMMARY OF 400 AM CDT...0900 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...22.1N 92.6W
ABOUT 195 MI...310 KM WNW OF PROGRESO MEXICO
ABOUT 750 MI...1210 KM WSW OF TAMPA FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...100 MPH...155 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...ESE OR 105 DEGREES AT 8 MPH...13 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...972 MB...28.71 INCHES
WATCHES AND WARNINGS
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CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:
The Government of Mexico has issued a Hurricane Warning for the
coast of the Yucatan Peninsula from Celestun to Rio Lagartos.
A Hurricane Watch is now in effect for the Gulf coast of Florida
from Chokoloskee northward to the mouth of the Suwanee River,
including Tampa Bay, and the Dry Tortugas.
A Storm Surge Watch has been issued for the Florida Gulf Coast from
Flamingo northward to the Suwannee River, including Charlotte Harbor
and Tampa Bay.
A Tropical Storm Watch is now in effect for the Florida Gulf Coast
west of the Suwannee River to Indian Pass, and south of Chokoloskee
to Flamingo. A Tropical Storm Watch has also been issued for the
Lower, Middle, and Upper Florida Keys, including Florida Bay
SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT:
A Hurricane Warning is in effect for...
* Coast of the Yucatan Peninsula of Mexico from Celestun to Rio
Lagartos
A Hurricane Watch is in effect for...
* Coast of the Yucatan Peninsula of Mexico from Rio Lagartos to
Cabo Catoche
* Florida Gulf coast from Chokoloskee to the mouth of the Suwanee
River, including Tampa Bay
* Dry Tortugas
A Storm Surge Watch is in effect for...
* Florida Gulf coast from Flamingo northward to the Suwannee River,
including Charlotte Harbor and Tampa Bay
A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect for...
* Coast of the Yucatan Peninsula of Mexico from Rio Lagartos to
Cancun
A Tropical Storm Watch is in effect for...
* Florida Gulf coast from Flamingo to south of Chokoloskee
* Florida Gulf coast north of the mouth of the Suwanee River to
Indian Pass
* Lower, Middle, and Upper Florida Keys, including Florida Bay
A Hurricane Warning means that hurricane conditions are expected
somewhere within the warning area. A warning is typically issued
36 hours before the anticipated first occurrence of
tropical-storm-force winds, conditions that make outside
preparations difficult or dangerous. Preparations to protect life
and property should be rushed to completion.
A Tropical Storm Warning means that tropical storm conditions are
expected somewhere within the warning area within 36 hours.
A Storm Surge Watch means there is a possibility of life-
threatening inundation, from rising water moving inland from the
coastline, in the indicated locations during the next 48 hours.
For a depiction of areas at risk, please see the National Weather
Service Storm Surge Watch/Warning Graphic, available at
hurricanes.gov.
A Hurricane Watch means that hurricane conditions are possible
within the watch area. A watch is typically issued 48 hours
before the anticipated first occurrence of tropical-storm-force
winds, conditions that make outside preparations difficult or
dangerous.
A Tropical Storm Watch means that tropical storm conditions are
possible within the watch area, generally within 48 hours.
Interests in the remainder of the Yucatan peninsula of Mexico, the
Florida Peninsula, the Florida Keys, and the northwestern Bahamas
should monitor the progress of this system. Additional watches and
warnings will likely be issued later today.
For storm information specific to your area in the United
States, including possible inland watches and warnings, please
monitor products issued by your local National Weather Service
forecast office. For storm information specific to your area
outside of the United States, please monitor products issued by
your national meteorological service.
DISCUSSION AND OUTLOOK
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At 400 AM CDT (0900 UTC), the center of Hurricane Milton was located
near latitude 22.1 North, longitude 92.6 West. Milton is moving
toward the east-southeast near 8 mph (13 km/h). An eastward to
east-southeastward motion is forecast through tonight, followed by a
turn toward the east and northeast on Tuesday and Wednesday. On the
forecast track, Milton is forecast to move near or just north of
the Yucatan Peninsula today and Tuesday, then cross the eastern
Gulf of Mexico and approach the west coast of the Florida Peninsula
by Wednesday.
Maximum sustained winds are now near 100 mph (155 km/h) with higher
gusts. Milton is forecast to intensify rapidly and become a major
hurricane later today.
Hurricane-force winds extend outward up to 25 miles (35 km) from the
center and tropical-storm-force winds extend outward up to 80 miles
(130 km).
The estimated minimum central pressure is 972 mb (28.71 inches).
HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND
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Key Messages for Hurricane Milton can be found in the Tropical
Cyclone Discussion under AWIPS header MIATCDAT4 and WMO header
WTNT44 KNHC and on the web at hurricanes.gov/text/MIATCDAT4.shtml
STORM SURGE: A storm surge will raise water levels by as much as 2
to 4 feet above ground level along the northern coast of the
Yucatan Peninsula in areas of onshore winds. Near the coast, the
surge will be accompanied by large and destructive waves.
The combination of a dangerous storm surge and the tide will cause
normally dry areas near the coast to be flooded by rising waters
moving inland from the shoreline. The water could reach the
following heights above ground somewhere in the indicated areas if
the peak surge occurs at the time of high tide...
Anclote River, FL to Englewood, FL...8-12 ft
Tampa Bay...8-12 ft
Yankeetown, FL to Anclote River, FL...5-10 ft
Englewood, FL to Bonita Beach, FL...5-10 ft
Charlotte Harbor...5-10 ft
Bonita Beach, FL to Chokoloskee, FL...4-7 ft
Suwannee River, FL to Yankeetown, FL...3-5 ft
The deepest water will occur along the immediate coast near and to
the south of the landfall location, where the surge will be
accompanied by large and dangerous waves. Surge-related flooding
depends on the relative timing of the surge and the tidal cycle,
and can vary greatly over short distances. For information
specific to your area, please see products issued by your local
National Weather Service forecast office.
For a complete depiction of areas at risk of storm surge
inundation, please see the National Weather Service Peak Storm
Surge Graphic, available at
hurricanes.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?peakSurge.
RAINFALL: Rainfall amounts of 5 to 10 inches, with localized totals
up to 15 inches, are expected across portions of the Florida
Peninsula and the Keys through Wednesday night. This rainfall brings
the risk of considerable flash, urban, and areal flooding, along
with the potential for moderate to major river flooding.
Milton will also produce rainfall totals of 2 to 4 inches across
portions of the northern Yucatan Peninsula..
For a complete depiction of forecast rainfall associated with
Hurricane Milton, please see the National Weather Service Storm
Total Rainfall Graphic, available at
hurricanes.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?rainqpf and the Flash Flood Risk
graphic at hurricanes.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?ero.
WIND: Hurricane conditions are expected in the warning area in
Mexico beginning late today or tonight, with tropical storm
conditions expected to begin as early as this morning. Hurricane
conditions are possible in the watch area in Mexico beginning
tonight and Tuesday, and tropical storm conditions are expected in
the tropical storm warning area beginning later today. Hurricane
conditions are possible in the Hurricane Watch area in Florida on
Wednesday, and tropical storm conditions are possible in the
Tropical Storm Watch area on Wednesday.
SURF: Swells generated by the system are affecting the coast of the
southwestern Gulf of Mexico. These swells are expected to spread
northward and eastward along much of the Gulf Coast within the next
day or two, and are likely to cause life-threatening surf and rip
current conditions. Please consult products from your local
weather office.
NEXT ADVISORY
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Next intermediate advisory at 700 AM CDT.
Next complete advisory at 1000 AM CDT.
$$
Forecaster BevenGringrinngghost
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muddyrivers
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To kind of illustrate the points being made in these posts and a few others, here's a video someone uploaded from their Hurricane Charley experience in 2004: Hurricane Charlie at Disney World
The term vlogger didn't even exist at that point. Contrast that to all the videos you are going to see on YouTube after this week's storm hits WDW...
John park hopper
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Some news reports are saying Milton will reach cat 4 (hope they are wrong)What preparations are WDW putting in place?
Dead2009
Horror Movie Guru
Yep. Battery powered radios were and still are a thing to this day. The notion that you're screwed completely if you don't have a smartphone is hilarious.