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Hurricane Ian expected to impact Florida (updates and related discussions)
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Tha Realest
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flynnibus
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Also when people are comparing to the quick drainage floods commonly seen in MK after a few inches of rain… do not assume forecasts of 15inches of rain means 5x worse.
You are skipping a critical dimension… time.
MK floods because of a high volume of water in a short period of time. Getting delughes of rain that are high rate. The issue is water coming in faster than it can drain (more than the issue being total volume).
The forecasts you are seeing are total rain fall… not per hour rain fall.
Obviously there is a cumulative effect when where the drain goes gets saturated and that’s a major concern in a sustained event like this… but don’t expect 8ft in the MK walkway
You are skipping a critical dimension… time.
MK floods because of a high volume of water in a short period of time. Getting delughes of rain that are high rate. The issue is water coming in faster than it can drain (more than the issue being total volume).
The forecasts you are seeing are total rain fall… not per hour rain fall.
Obviously there is a cumulative effect when where the drain goes gets saturated and that’s a major concern in a sustained event like this… but don’t expect 8ft in the MK walkway
Puerto Rico, US and British Virgin Islands, and all over Florida, including Miami and both coasts.
I've gone through more Hurricanes than most humans can even name.
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Tha Realest
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The Weather Channel mentioned this morning that the three-day record for rain in Orlando was 13". They're expecting to get that in possibly a few hours, on top of weeks and weeks of rain saturation in the area.Also when people are comparing to the quick drainage floods commonly seen in MK after a few inches of rain… do not assume forecasts of 15inches of rain means 5x worse.
You are skipping a critical dimension… time.
MK floods because of a high volume of water in a short period of time. Getting delughes of rain that are high rate. The issue is water coming in faster than it can drain (more than the issue being total volume).
The forecasts you are seeing are total rain fall… not per hour rain fall.
Obviously there is a cumulative effect when where the drain goes gets saturated and that’s a major concern in a sustained event like this… but don’t expect 8ft in the MK walkway
fotofx
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You guys are missing a key factor in the Magic Kingdom..... Most of the park is actually on the second floor. There are no basements in Florida (very few exceptions). The utilidors were built on the first floor. They then dredged the seven seas lagoon to cover them and build the Magic Kingdom on the second floor.Also when people are comparing to the quick drainage floods commonly seen in MK after a few inches of rain… do not assume forecasts of 15inches of rain means 5x worse.
You are skipping a critical dimension… time.
MK floods because of a high volume of water in a short period of time. Getting delughes of rain that are high rate. The issue is water coming in faster than it can drain (more than the issue being total volume).
The forecasts you are seeing are total rain fall… not per hour rain fall.
Obviously there is a cumulative effect when where the drain goes gets saturated and that’s a major concern in a sustained event like this… but don’t expect 8ft in the MK walkway
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hopemax
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The issue would be with the UPS dispatch not grounding trucks, not the people who placed the order.
However, when we had the terrible wildfire here in CO last year that destroyed a 1000 homes, there was a family who were saved due to an Amazon driver making a delivery to their house. The family had been napping (they had a 4 month old infant), so when they woke up they weren’t sure how they would get out because they did not have a working vehicle, the fire was moving fast, and the neighbors had left. Then the Amazon van appeared. Good for them, but Amazon got flack about not recalling their drivers.
flynnibus
Premium Member
I am not missing it at all. We all know that and it’s common knowledge in this community.
But It’s still possible for a contained space above grade to flood and we know it does as most have seen in the MK and parts of epcot. I was speaking to how people need to remember the stats they are seeing are not the same (rate vs totals).
flynnibus
Premium Member
Rain totals are exceedingly localized stats. I would not sweat that stat. The key is how long the sustained event will be. Low lying areas are at risk… but people have in their brain katrina leeve breaks
Nubs70
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Exactly,
Water will only drain as fast as the available open area of the drains, minus restrictions in the below grade piping, and minus the level of the discharging body of water or capacity of a discharge pump.
fotofx
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There is a difference between puddles caused by uneven grade of the pavement and flooding. Puddles yes at MK, flooding no.
All four parks were built on swampland. A large amount of dredging was required to raise the parks above grade. Fort Wilderness floods because it preexisted the parks on Bay Lake. The parks get puddles and the surrounding area can flood into the drainage systems but the parks themselves with a few exceptions (AK comes to mind) will not flood to a point that they can not be quickly cleared.
I've now got a townhouse down here. Provided we both survive, we need to get together this weekend. If the roads are clear. PM me.
Randomly, that's one of the areas we're looking at possibly moving to once our lease is up - although we like Hamlin a little better due to location closer to my family.
Andy_0410
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Staying at Coronado springs. Biggest frustration is no info. Finding out things from here rather than Disney like the refund to the Halloween party tomorrow night. Can’t speak to anyone massive queues everywhere
From uk so first ever hurricane not sure what should or shouldn’t be doing
From uk so first ever hurricane not sure what should or shouldn’t be doing
Bostb71
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We were staying in the cabins at Wilderness Lodge and told we needed to relocate to the main building by 8:00 AM. We were told that Wilderness and Animal Kingdom Lodges were some of the best places to be during a hurricane because they were both designed to sustain category 4 hurricanes, but also because none of the room doors open outside, so we’re not confined to our rooms during lockdown. I’d think that’s the case at other Deluxe properties the new towers. Also told, during the last hurricane, Disney discounted the food.
The photoshopped background says it all about that vlog.
Well you are in a very safe place, with a solid building, priority power restoration and emergency backups. Being in a Disney hotel is about the best case scenario.
1. Stay indoors until you're given the all clear.
2. Keep your drapes closed and stay away from the windows.
3. As others have mentioned, put towels under your door to prevent water coming in, even if in a room on the higher floors.
4. Move as many items, like electronics, to tables. Keep your phones/battery packs plugged in.
Just think the stories you'll have to tell when you return home.
DisneyDreamer08
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I’ve seen two people post from different resorts that the food courts are closing at 3pm today and remaining closed until 6pm tomorrow night.