Again, not arguing that Disney now wants the project. Rather, that they will use their influence to ensure they are the priority at the onset of the project.
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HSR Coming to FLA, AKA "See I told you so"
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Again, not arguing that Disney now wants the project. Rather, that they will use their influence to ensure they are the priority at the onset of the project.
Just because OrSen does not know does not mean it hasn't been decided. My guess is they don't want to steal the President's thunder as he is traveling all the way to Tampa just for this project tomorrow. As I said, your being too cynical. This ain't no big dig as Florida is not Boston in any way. I'm done making the point, believe what you want.
kashmir
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I like the way you think.
kashmir
Active Member
Congratulations!
The announcement is the thunder. The appearance is gravy. And as for the way billions of taxpaying dollars will be spent, and where; the responsibility of the press is to report it. Detail leaks happen all the time, and will not reduce by one the number of cameras and press at the announcement.
Yes, how a large government project will be implemented is easily and readily equated to cynicism.
My Lord, EP Explorer was right, logic really is kryptonite to you, isn't it?
You think the press is "responsible"? Now there is a lack of logic! :lol:
What planet have you been living on? :ROFLOL:
You don't like the press? Stop referring to the Orlando Sentinel as a primary source of information. Again, try, just try, logic for once. You might even like it.....
Wilt Dasney
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I agree with you. It's nice that Obama mentioned the project, but it's really irrelevant as to whether or not it gets finished. State/local politics can be a very shortsighted and provincial exercise.
Notice that this is not a prediction that the rail will not happen; it is a statement (and I believe this is your point as well) that the involvement of the federal government really doesn't guarantee anything.
Projects like this with so many moving parts involved (Disney/Orlando/other theme park providers/Tampa/local businesses/state government/federal government/etc.) can be derailed depressingly easily, by one rogue politician or one annoyed Chamber of Commerce member. Here's hoping that doesn't happen here. It is encouraging that the project has gotten this far.
hrcollectibles
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tecowdw
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Looking at the maps submitted by FDOT, the Disney station looks to be proposed on the west-bound side of I4 between the 192 and Osceola Parkway connections. So basically - just east of WWOS complex.
Actually, my source was me. Perhaps you need to read the thread where I explained all this over the last few months. You told me I was wrong then too. Perhaps that is your problem. You just can't stand being wrong. Sad.
Bye. :wave:
Main Street USA
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A lot of people thought this was going to happen. You happened to be one of them, so now you think you "told people so." LOL Man, you never quit acting like a...well....nevermind.
Kamikaze
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Didn't this get approved like ... 6 months ago?
A well informed contributor to WDWMagic?
No. In fact, the complete distribution of the High Speed Rail funds has not been announced except for the Orlando-Tampa link announced just today. Here is the thread where we hashed all this out with people like " Giraffe Lounge" and "lazyboy97" and "wm49rs".
It explains everything. And much more. :lol:
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?t=497536
Actually JT, your entire argument before diverged into some rambling dissertation on how Florida would get these funds and essentially nowhere else, because of political reasons. And what you ignored then (as now), is the process. Just becaue the President is making one announcement in Tampa doesn't mean the funds are all being sent there. In fact, other rail announcements are going to be made throughout the country by members of the Obama Administration, including in California, which you said would get any money because of the way in voted in the last election.
Oh, and another thing, just because the project is "shovel ready" in your convoluted mind, doesn't mean the project is going to start right away. Try reading a newspaper outside the "OrSen" and you'll see the precise process I trying explaining to you has to be undertaken:
"Florida is well positioned, having secured most of the right of way and completing an environmental impact study. In the coming year, the project would be put out to bid and construction could begin in early 2011."
Wow, what are the odds? The State of Florida actually has to find someone to do the work for them? Go figure. I guess things don't work as neatly as you want them to Jt.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politi...-to-tampa-for-florida-high-speed-rail/1068768
The Magical Express luggage component is a big selling point for many travelers - with HSR you would need to claim your own luggage and drag it to the train. The Disney Resort check in service for participating airlines also magically takes your luggage back to your plane when you are leaving WDW, as Magical Express takes you back to the airport.
If they did discontinue Magical Express, and travelers took their luggage on the HSR to Disney's station, Disney would need to have transport from that station to the resorts that would allow luggage to be taken onboard; current Disney transportation does not allow, and is not designed for, luggage to be transferred with the guest.
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
If WDW gets a stop, who funds it? If I were a tax payer Id be wondering why one comercial company was being favoured over others.
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
Because we as little people appreciate what an honour it is to receive his proclamations, guidance and vision.
Besides its not nice to mock care in the community patients