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[Cesar R M]

My comment about this made the Disney parks blog. Im shocked! Its the last comment on the bottom.
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how long until most of these comments are sanitized?

 

[alissafalco]

how long until most of these comments are sanitized?

It made through the moderation and was posted. Once it's posted I think its good to stay. It's still there, I just checked.

 

[alissafalco]

My thoughts exactly. I will leave you the job of posting for me.



Funny. However, my conjecturing about when "Twice the Price" dining (need to replenish the coffers after "free" dining) and the Sunrise Surcharge will take effect didn't make the cut. I do take solace in the fact that someone at Disney sees my sarcasm even if they don't read these boards.

lol
I was thinking the same thing, whoever moderates these comments has to get a good laugh I'm sure.

 

[thehowiet]

It made through the moderation and was posted. Once it's posted I think its good to stay. It's still there, I just checked.

That's mostly true; however, I've had a few comments that were surprisingly approved only to be scrubbed a day or two later. When the 3rd track for Toy Story was announced on TDPB this comment was approved and lasted for almost 24hrs before it was finally deleted:

Great news! So pumped about a 3rd Toy Story track!!! I’ll take this over a new attraction any day, to be honest. Besides, adding a brand new attraction would prevent us from finishing everything at Hollywood Studios in half a day.

 

[alissafalco]

That's mostly true; however, I've had a few comments that were surprisingly approved only to be scrubbed a day or two later. When the 3rd track for Toy Story was announced on TDPB this comment was approved and lasted for almost 24hrs before it was finally deleted:

Great news! So pumped about a 3rd Toy Story track!!! I’ll take this over a new attraction any day, to be honest. Besides, adding a brand new attraction would prevent us from finishing everything at Hollywood Studios in half a day.

 

[NearTheEars]

I'm very confused. What's the problem, exactly? I understand why people object to the after hours thing in general, but what's of particular concern when it comes to this cast communication?

Apparently it would be preferred by some that the cast not be educated on what is happening?

I'm not sure either. That's also probably why 90% of this thread is discussing the merits of the offering, not the FAQ.

 

[WildcatDen]

If the same concert were being ran for $70.. and you knowingly paid $200 for the reduced version of the same concert.. then yes, I'd call you stupid

"Reduced" version of the "Same" concert???? Is it reduced or is it the same? This is not one of those Ace Ventura "Butt" comments is it?

My point is, if 'someone' can afford $250 to see Paul McCartney, my guess is, that same person may pony up the $150 for a Disney Experience if it appeals to them? I did not think I was re-inventing the wheel with this concept?

 

[flynnibus]

"Reduced" version of the "Same" concert???? Is it reduced or is it the same?

Is the full park park experience available? Nope
Is the ticket enabling the same duration? Nope
Is the ticket forcing you to visit at a less desirable time of day? Yup
Are essential elements like FOOD reduced or closed? Yup

Yes, that's what I would call a 'reduced' version of the park. Yet this offering is asking you to pay 50% more for what is a significantly reduced version of the park experience for the guise of 'lower crowds'.

Your concert analogy does not hold true to the same.. because you were just comparing absolute dollar spends. When in reality what you have here is someone paying 3x the going rate for something. So as I said, if you paid $200 for a show, for what would you could see for $70 at will.. I'd call your spending smarts into question.

 

[WildcatDen]

Your concert analogy does not hold true to the same.. because you were just comparing absolute dollar spends. When in reality what you have here is someone paying 3x the going rate for something. So as I said, if you paid $200 for a show, for what would you could see for $70 at will.. I'd call your spending smarts into question.

Like I said, this is not something I would even consider. So I will keep my smarts intact. But, will I call someone else stupid if they want to pay for this experience. Nope. Just like I will not call someone stupid for buying Pepperidge Farm cookies when you can get 3X the amount of the same ingredients for less money buying the Kroger Brand. . .

 

[Filby61]

...I like the special ticket events for Christmas and Halloween. It can't be a surprise that someone came up with the idea to offer the equivalent except at a higher cost to the customers and without the extra cost to the company of special parades and firework shows. (It is silly to continue to refer to customers as guests anymore. The company treats us like customers to be fleeced and analyzed and tallied, not guests)...

Nail on the head. Disney needs to start playing a new theme song at its main gates:

Look at them yo-yo's
That's the way we do it
Who needs creatives, we think financially!
That ain't workin',
That's the way we do it
Money for nothin' and a bonus for free​

(With apologies to Dire Straits.)

 

[NearTheEars]

Is the full park park experience available? Nope
Is the ticket enabling the same duration? Nope
Is the ticket forcing you to visit at a less desirable time of day? Yup
Are essential elements like FOOD reduced or closed? Yup

Yes, that's what I would call a 'reduced' version of the park. Yet this offering is asking you to pay 50% more for what is a significantly reduced version of the park experience for the guise of 'lower crowds'.

Your concert analogy does not hold true to the same.. because you were just comparing absolute dollar spends. When in reality what you have here is someone paying 3x the going rate for something. So as I said, if you paid $200 for a show, for what would you could see for $70 at will.. I'd call your spending smarts into question.

Let's not ignore the fact that there's also going to be a significant reduction in crowds and wait times for popular attractions.

So if someone finds value in that, why not?

I don't as a local, but someone on a quick trip? Possibly.

 

[UncleMike101]

Nail on the head. Disney needs to start playing a new theme song at its main gates:

Look at them yo-yo's
That's the way we do it
Who needs creatives, we think financially!
That ain't workin',
That's the way we do it
Money for nothin' and a bonus for free​

(With apologies to Dire Straits.)

Someone call Weird Al.
We have a chart topper remake.............

 

[Cesar R M]

Stupid? You mean like those same people who pay over $200 For concert tickets? Or hi scalper prices for sporting events? God forbid people feel compelled to spend money on things they love?

technically, concert tickets are a usually a one time event per year (unless you follow them touring) and seeing a superstar/diva face to face.
Pretty different compared to a mass built park with thousands of copies of the samefoam heads and attractions based on automated/robotical systems.

 

[Cesar R M]

Since Disney does not guarantee a number of rides nor a level of enjoyment (which would be impossible to quantify) I highly doubt this is anywhere near being a reasonable basis for a lawsuit.

unless they explicitly lied thanks to shoddy maintenance?
aka promised a lot, delivered nothing?

 

[lazyboy97o]

Why is there a need for a WDW transportation company? So based on that logic, should all rides have turnstiles, this way the more popular and more used attractions would receive more funding from attendance, and therefore more properly maintained? Should our park ticket be one big metro ticket and the value decreases a certain value based on what rides we choose? Then, each attraction will have its own color of money, and can be sustained from that amount?

While it is not directly tied to your paid admission, that pretty much does happen. There are turnstiles counting how many people visit each attraction and that is compared with operating costs by assigning each visit a theoretical value.

 

[Cesar R M]

Is the full park park experience available? Nope
Is the ticket enabling the same duration? Nope
Is the ticket forcing you to visit at a less desirable time of day? Yup
Are essential elements like FOOD reduced or closed? Yup

Yes, that's what I would call a 'reduced' version of the park. Yet this offering is asking you to pay 50% more for what is a significantly reduced version of the park experience for the guise of 'lower crowds'.

Your concert analogy does not hold true to the same.. because you were just comparing absolute dollar spends. When in reality what you have here is someone paying 3x the going rate for something. So as I said, if you paid $200 for a show, for what would you could see for $70 at will.. I'd call your spending smarts into question.

The Concert equivalent would something like:

You paid 200 USD for the 3 hour retail concert.
The "Extra magic hours" would be something like: an "opportunity" to have a 20 minute(max of 30) of "extra time for 2-3 songs" after the main concert is finished. Also have the "amazing offer" of free coke. The downhill? The bathrooms, the fireworks, the food and most of the dancers are already closed, gone or out of the stadium.

 

[flynnibus]

Let's not ignore the fact that there's also going to be a significant reduction in crowds and wait times for popular attractions.

So if someone finds value in that, why not?

I don't as a local, but someone on a quick trip? Possibly.

I didn't ignore it.. I pointed it out where I said "what is a significantly reduced version of the park experience for the guise of 'lower crowds'"

Strip a Magic Kingdom down.. and you won't find it will hold your interest as long. The novelty of the 'empty park' wears off relatively quickly and is replaced by frustrations like having to walk so far to get to the next thing.. (because everything is closed between point A and B and nothing to entertain you or draw you in).. or being hungry (and everything is closed).. or finding attractions that are over in 5mins rather short because you ran out of things to do (because you are churning through rides so fast, and there is nothing else to soak up time).

Just think about how people say "if you only have ever used FP, you missed out on alot the attraction offers in the queue, etc" - Now amplify that and apply it to the entire park. Look at how bothered people are when they goto DAK and say "we were done by mid day and had nothing left to do..." - re-riding Disney attractions over and over generally isn't that fun.. and that's why at DAK they don't, even tho they could in that half day.

I'm sure plenty of people will jump into this.. and if its their replacement for visiting the park normally.. I feel sorry for them. I look forward to this experiment going away quickly.

Sadly tho, the reside of it will live with us forever as Disney continues to build upon the idea that people will pay for that elevated access and will continue to expand and exploit that .

Its as if the idea of "even tho you COULD do something, doesn't mean you SHOULDN'T"has been completely lost.

The idea that Disney could have charged anything they want to have people stay in the castle, etc.. or be part of the show.. and for decades they said NO. It wasn't because they COULDN'T do it... its because they knew they SHOULDN'T do it.

 

[George]

lol
I was thinking the same thing, whoever moderates these comments has to get a good laugh I'm sure.

That's mostly true; however, I've had a few comments that were surprisingly approved only to be scrubbed a day or two later. When the 3rd track for Toy Story was announced on TDPB this comment was approved and lasted for almost 24hrs before it was finally deleted:

Great news! So pumped about a 3rd Toy Story track!!! I’ll take this over a new attraction any day, to be honest. Besides, adding a brand new attraction would prevent us from finishing everything at Hollywood Studios in half a day.

I should also note that my comments were moderated out of the Frozstrom announcement blog wherein I explained that Maelstrom held a special place in my families heart since my eldest was conceived on the ride. I think my description of the boat ride portion of the ride being shorter than we remembered, our troubles exiting the ride vehicle, and the safe haven we found in the empty theater were a bit "graphic" for the stuck up sticky wicks that monitor the blogs. What's more family oriented than the making of one?

I wish I knew why I had such bad luck. *sigh*

 

[alissafalco]

I should also note that my comments were moderated out of the Frozstrom announcement blog wherein I explained that Maelstrom held a special place in my families heart since my eldest was conceived on the ride. I think my description of the boat ride portion of the ride being shorter than we remembered, our troubles exiting the ride vehicle, and the safe haven we found in the empty theater were a bit "graphic" for the stuck up sticky wicks that monitor the blogs. What's more family oriented than the making of one?

I wish I knew why I had such bad luck. *sigh*

omg

 

[Mike S]

omg

He's a real hoot. One of my absolute favorite posters here