ToTBellHop
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I definitely recall during my first visit to L.A. thinking, “this place is so clean!”
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How California theme parks will enforce out-of-state visitors ban - OCR/SCNG
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TP2000
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You should see what we've done with the place now! You'll love it!
Here's the LA County beach that Jack Tripper rode his bike along for the opening sequence of Three's Company in 1976. We really spruced it up for all you folks from the lesser and dirtier states!
ToTBellHop
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You should see what we've done with the place now! You'll love it!
Here's the LA County beach that Jack Tripper rode his bike along for the opening sequence of Three's Company in 1976. We really spruced it up for all you folks from the lesser and dirtier states!
Rolling out the red carpet, I see. Can’t wait for the commercials this summer with Gavin and Jason Mraz telling everyone else in America that CA is back open and as safe and clean is a Vegas woman of the night.
TP2000
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On the topic of California's rampant homeless problem, it will be interesting to see what Anaheim does in April as the city gets ready for Disneyland to reopen. While not nearly as bad as the situation in Los Angeles, there is a noticeable increase in homeless people in the Anaheim Resort District. They've taken over every bus stop and many of the abandoned storefronts now.
Do you get these people to leave? Or just hope the tourists paying big bucks for their Disneyland vacation step over them?
The 7-11 at the busy corner of Katella and Harbor, with the Desert Palms Hotel on the left. "World Class Resort District!"
Do you get these people to leave? Or just hope the tourists paying big bucks for their Disneyland vacation step over them?
The 7-11 at the busy corner of Katella and Harbor, with the Desert Palms Hotel on the left. "World Class Resort District!"
Californian Elitist
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Part of the reason they are there is due to how quiet it is, and that much of the Private Security is on Furlough.
Also, much of the APD assigned to the resort have been relocated due to budget issues.
But once the place opens up, some of the issue will self-relocate. And with the drop in COVID numbers, shelter beds are available.
And in Anaheim, due to a Federal Judge, if an appropriate bed is available (Things like Family/Women's, ADA, pets, etc.), then the homeless person has three choices. Accept the offer of shelter, opt to use their Freedom of Choice, and leave the area. The third option is being arrested, and hopefully not the option they pick.
MarvelCharacterNerd
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George Lucas on a Bench
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We can only hope they don't house them at the Alpine Inn.
MoonRakerSCM
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Had a job meeting in Beverly Hills (get to do some midnight downhole logging on Rodeo Drive soon!) last week and picked up some Phillipe's on the way home for dinner. WOW the homeless problem has beyond exploded in LA. Sidewalks completely turned into housing.
Keep in mind that most of them are not mentally sound and are out there by choice and not because they've hit hard times. Did a levee inspection on the LA river a few months ago for the army corps from near the zoo south toward downtown. We were not allowed to pass by tent formations on our own and after inspecting an area and recording notes, we grouped together and walked through them quickly as a tight group. Our host from the army corps told stories of getting to know all the locals and gaining a knack for knowing when they're dangerous vs. not. Boss boss has had a knife pulled on him twice while doing inspections (one situation turned violent and an arrest was made). The army corps guy who drives the river every single day says that 99% of the people out there are there by choice (most drug users but a lot just don't want to live in society) or insane. He said he has seen several people who end up out there due to hard times, usually one or two a year there would be a new person who was down on their luck and suddenly homeless (with covid he had not seen an upturn in these on his beat). He said they always provide information for centers and programs and those people are always gone within a week (and he had some heartwarming stories of people who eventually got back in touch to thank him).
On the Santa Ana river, our levee certification for the army corps was one of the big drivers of the massive tent city removals, and the stories from those army corp reps were the same... most people were there by choice, and did not want help or to get off the street.
Keep in mind that most of them are not mentally sound and are out there by choice and not because they've hit hard times. Did a levee inspection on the LA river a few months ago for the army corps from near the zoo south toward downtown. We were not allowed to pass by tent formations on our own and after inspecting an area and recording notes, we grouped together and walked through them quickly as a tight group. Our host from the army corps told stories of getting to know all the locals and gaining a knack for knowing when they're dangerous vs. not. Boss boss has had a knife pulled on him twice while doing inspections (one situation turned violent and an arrest was made). The army corps guy who drives the river every single day says that 99% of the people out there are there by choice (most drug users but a lot just don't want to live in society) or insane. He said he has seen several people who end up out there due to hard times, usually one or two a year there would be a new person who was down on their luck and suddenly homeless (with covid he had not seen an upturn in these on his beat). He said they always provide information for centers and programs and those people are always gone within a week (and he had some heartwarming stories of people who eventually got back in touch to thank him).
On the Santa Ana river, our levee certification for the army corps was one of the big drivers of the massive tent city removals, and the stories from those army corp reps were the same... most people were there by choice, and did not want help or to get off the street.
It isn't a restriction, it is a travel advisory and it needs to stop.It's all such a fraud. No one is listening to Sacramento bureaucrats any more, if they ever were in the first place.
Honestly, who the heck even knew there was a "Travel Restriction" for California and you are supposed to quarantine for 10 days after your arrival from those other dirty states?
I've suddenly got young family members who are headed to San Diego for a spring break and so I had to reopen the old beach house for them down there and get it ready. They are bringing several friends. They are all smart and savvy young adults from different Western states. No one mentioned or cares about a "Travel Restriction", and in their communication the main concern was the stock available in the liquor cabinet and the working status of the hot tub (in that order) instead of anyone worrying about "Quarantine".
GimpYancIent
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Where to get them to move to is the question? The beaches? Set up camps on the burns scars? Keep them in the area in tax payer funded, screened off / out of site housing of some sort?
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George Lucas on a Bench
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You should see what we've done with the place now! You'll love it!
Here's the LA County beach that Jack Tripper rode his bike along for the opening sequence of Three's Company in 1976. We really spruced it up for all you folks from the lesser and dirtier states!
Homeless Update
Is this what out of work Disneyland Vloggers are now doing?
TP2000
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Certainly not. One needs to be careful of crossing the line from Showmanship into Showboating.
TP2000
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Or into one of the hundreds of beds at professional shelters in Anaheim, part of the several thousand shelter beds across Orange County? Government approved and/or church operated shelters who go way beyond a safe place to crash, but who have trained staff on hand to get them the help they need for their drug problems, and then get them back into the workplace, an apartment of their own, and on in to normal society. There's an option few people mention.
Shelter Programs | Orange County California - Health Care Agency
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TP2000
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Philippe's! I love that place. And their French Dips and pie, and their hot mustard they sell at the front register. My grandfather (that's how far back it goes, which is not common in California!) loved that place. I haven't been in quite a few years, but when I was often taking the Coast Starlight to/from SoCal and Seattle I would walk over there from Union Station on the generous layover times Amtrak schedules between the San Diegans/Surfliners and the Coast Starlight.
Now, how do you pronounce it? Are you one of those historic types (like my grandfather) that pronounces it Phil-ee-pees in three syllables? Or are you one of those less historic types (like myself) that pronounces it like the French name Phil-eeps in only two syllables? No judgement, just wondering.
As for the homeless, I don't go to Los Angeles any more. It's just not safe and it's not healthy there. The homeless are literally everywhere, and I stopped going up there even before Covid, so I can only imagine how bad it is now. They have nothing in LA that I can't get in OC, and what's exclusive to LA isn't worth the hassle and the physical danger any more. That once wonderful city is dying a quick death, circa 2015-2021.
I just worry about the Anaheim Resort District, and from the info that @Darkbeer1 shared things will get cleaned up a bit there in the next six weeks. But on the few times I've driven through the Resort District in the last six months, it's unrecognizable due to all the homeless camping out in bus shelters and abandoned storefronts. Can you imagine the absolute heart attack Walt Disney would have if he showed up in 2021 and saw what the streets around Disneyland look like now?!?
Walt disparaged Anaheim in 1965 because Harbor Blvd. looked like this, in his words a "cut rate Las Vegas"...
(I'd forgotten there was a time in America when every other car on the road was a VW Bug! In college towns it was EVERY car.)
Can you even imagine what Walt would think if he saw Harbor Blvd. looking like this in 2021?!?
It's my understanding that many of the homeless folks don't want to go to the professionally run shelters that offer all sorts of medical/mental/career/welfare help because they can't do drugs in those shelters. They'd rather stay on the streets, panhandle 20 or 30 bucks a day from bleeding heart types, and then party on drugs for a few hours before they pass out and start again the next day.
But Anaheim has a responsibility as a host city to the most famous tourist park in the world. Anaheim has to provide safe and clean streetscapes and environments in order for the tax machine known as the Anaheim Resort District to operate properly. Anaheim can't afford to become Los Angeles. And Disneyland can't afford that either. I trust something will be done!
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TP2000
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Quoting that separately because it's important, and it's beautiful. The work our police and law enforcement and military personnel do to keep our communities safe is wonderful, but then there's extra credit work like this that they do for our communities.
I can't thank those policemen and servicemen enough! I don't think any of us can, but we should always try.
TP2000
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What's interesting here is that this would seem to be a perfect example of how the once-touted but now-ignored Western States Pact could respond accordingly and allow the West Coast states to act in coordination for their important tourism industries.
What's the Western States Pact, you ask? It got lost in the panic and frenzy of last spring, but it was ostensibly a new system agreed to by the three West Coast Governors; Governor Inslee of Washington, Governor Brown of Oregon, and Governor Newsom (for now) of California. All of those governors are Democrats, so they all speak the same language and get paid by the same lobbyists.
From Wikipedia...
In announcing the Western States Pact on April 13, 2020, California, Oregon and Washington governors Gavin Newsom, Kate Brown, and Jay Inslee jointly announced that "COVID-19 doesn’t follow state or national boundaries. It will take every level of government, working together, and a full picture of what’s happening on the ground."
So, what happened to that cool kids club? Why would California be implementing travel restrictions on neighboring states that have far less Covid transmission, far less deaths, and higher vaccination rates? Why would Sacramento decree that dirty Oregonians and Washingtonians aren't allowed to come to California and go to Disneyland?
Not allowing Western States Pact residents into Disneyland makes no sense, and it's clearly not based on the science and data.
March 16th, 2021 Covid Science & Data
California = 91,835 Cases Per 100K, 1,421 Deaths Per 1 Million, 10.5% Fully Vaccinated
Oregon = 37,947 Cases Per 100K, 556 Deaths Per 1 Million, 12.3% Fully Vaccinated
Washington = 46,534 Cases Per 100K, 684 Deaths Per 1 Million, 12.8% Fully Vaccinated
Coronavirus Updates (COVID-19) Deaths & Cases per 1M Population | RealClearPolitics
Coronavirus Updates (COVID-19) Deaths & Cases per Population | RealClearPolitics
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Californian Elitist
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I’ve had more personal interactions with the homeless in Anaheim/Orange County than with those in Los Angeles.
el_super
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They were there before the pandemic.
A lot less