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Hotelier Ian Schrager working on Disney Hotels.
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Disneyhead'71
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ford91exploder
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I'm still wondering how you paid $630/night in 2006 at the Poly, when rates today for a Standard View run about $450 for full rack rate with no discounts. I thought everybody was saying that prices have skyrocketed the last several years, but apparently the Poly is cheaper?!?!? How does that work?
Did they say WHEN they stayed?, I seem to recall a 'standard view' room breaking the 1K mark at the Poly over the holidays.
CDavid
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Nobody should be misrepresenting facts; if you have a valid point, there simply isn't any need to (with the inverse perhaps also true). That said, there is a distinction between hyperbole (which is perfectly legitimate) and actual fabrication and erroneous exaggeration of facts or statistics (which is never appropriate).
I fully agree with what you're saying here; Just pointing out the obvious in that this is a discussion forum and not a peer-reviewed journal.
You're seriously going there?!?!?!??!
Disneyhead'71
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Right. I stayed one night and didn't (never) charge anything to the room.Its easy- you take your hotel rate + everything you charged to your room (i.e. food & merchandise), then you divide that number by the nights stayed. $630/night. Duh
He mentioned 2006 only. In checking the WDW site, a Standard View room during Christmas week is $654/night at the Poly. I cannot believe that the price has gone from $630 to $654 in 9 years. Oh, and all renovations are scheduled to be finished prior to the Christmas season, so there is NO reason for them to discount any room there at that time.
Disneyhead'71
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Yes. Rooms at The Poly have even recently have been showing up on discount sites for under $300.You're seriously going there?!?!?!??!
There is a reason they are turning a large chunk of the place to timeshares. A mid40s% occupancy rate will cause odd things to happen.
Disneyhead'71
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But I do appreciate y'all calling me a liar.
Never did. My ONLY point was that if you paid that much back in 2006, how can all of you here say that Disney deluxe resort prices have gone through the roof over the last decade. You can't have it both ways. Either it was more expensive back then, or it wasn't.
Disney's last quarterly results had hotel occupancy at 89%. Please quote your source for the 40% figure. Mine is from official Disney releases.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Here is the interesting bit, CM's keep saying occupancy is very low and we have empty resort parking lots which tend to back that up, Yet Disney reports 89% occupancy under penalty of pejury.
Which version is the truth?
Which version is the truth?
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
I'm guessing your money is on perjury?
Disneyhead'71
Well-Known Member
That 89% is an average of all the WDW resorts combined. Only a simpleton would assume that numbers means all the resorts were at 89%.
PREMiERdrum
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The difference between "rooms currently available" and "total rooms on property"?
Disneyhead'71
Well-Known Member
If Pop and Animation are at 98%, then the Poly can be below 50% and still have a 89% occupancy rate.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
No, Disney would not be that stupid, But I'd very much like to know what the ACTUAL count of available rooms is outside of DVC which regularly runs above 90%, Occupancy is expressed as a percentage of total available rooms over 30 days.
Otterhead
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I know that a lot of guests have been avoiding the Poly while the pools have been closed and major construction's been going on. Thus, low occupancy and discounts. Now that the pool's open again, the lobby's done, and Trader Sam's is open, costs and occupancy will rise.
networkpro
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Dont forget that there are 30,469 on site hotel rooms, and double that off site so that would mean even with 89% filled thats 3,351 empty rooms!
dumboflyer
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Anyone else remember a time on these forums when this topic would have simply yielded a discussion speculating whether Schrager's involvement would be Disney or not, and what theme or location or restaurants or whatever such hotel would feature?
Sadly this, like many forum posts of any substance around here, quickly degraded into a pro-Disney vs anti-Disney argument that overshadows the original point of the post.
Yes I know you can split hairs about not being really anti-Disney ("I'm comparing to old Disney", "I love them and wish they were better", "They are great but Uni has caught and surpassed them", "I don't really hate Disney, I just like trolling", etc.) But I can think of no other topical news website whose forums are this full of commentary so critical of the site's theme.
Sadly this, like many forum posts of any substance around here, quickly degraded into a pro-Disney vs anti-Disney argument that overshadows the original point of the post.
Yes I know you can split hairs about not being really anti-Disney ("I'm comparing to old Disney", "I love them and wish they were better", "They are great but Uni has caught and surpassed them", "I don't really hate Disney, I just like trolling", etc.) But I can think of no other topical news website whose forums are this full of commentary so critical of the site's theme.