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hogwarts to replace 20k?
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I think that Harry Potter would fit excellently in 20k. its long enough, big enough, if they work the land right, it could be excellent. I think that they could make it so that you enter a train station and go to hogwarts and end up seeing the castle in a building. (similar to the volcano in el rio del tiempo) it could be a great effect and it could be dark in there. It could be one of the most popular attractions in the magic kingdom and it wouldnt even take up too much space if they created it right! Possibly build some of it underground, who knows. their possibilities are endless with that area.
I DO NOT think it would fit well in mgm. mgm is a bunch of buildings with attractions in them. its like a bunch of soundstages. millionair, star tours, rock n roller coaster, all buildings. TOT is an original building however, but i dont see a hogwarts themed building there unless they make the building fit in with everything else and be inside a boring squared building.
harry potter is a excellent nd could fit into fantasyland well. who cares about another company having the rights to it, if its a popular ride, people will like it if its well done!
(like i said before, i was told from my family's source and my dad clarified it to me. i was told that hogwarts could fit there and it would NOT BE ANYWHERE close to the size of the castle. trust me, he says you "cant see it until you enter the attraction") im curious to know more about this.
more information will be passed to you all when i get it. :animwink:
I DO NOT think it would fit well in mgm. mgm is a bunch of buildings with attractions in them. its like a bunch of soundstages. millionair, star tours, rock n roller coaster, all buildings. TOT is an original building however, but i dont see a hogwarts themed building there unless they make the building fit in with everything else and be inside a boring squared building.
harry potter is a excellent nd could fit into fantasyland well. who cares about another company having the rights to it, if its a popular ride, people will like it if its well done!
(like i said before, i was told from my family's source and my dad clarified it to me. i was told that hogwarts could fit there and it would NOT BE ANYWHERE close to the size of the castle. trust me, he says you "cant see it until you enter the attraction") im curious to know more about this.
more information will be passed to you all when i get it. :animwink:
Lee
Adventurer
That looks to be the case.
Now, if Abarat had sold a few million more copies...
Or the movie ever comes out and rakes in dough...
You never know. But I doubt it.
As far as Harry goes:
AOL Time Warner nixes idea of Potter theme-park attraction
Posted by GRAE
Source: Orlando Sentinel via Wizard News
As we reported previously here and here, rumors were speculating that both Universal and Disney were pursuing the idea of obtaining the rights for the Harry Potter characters in order to construct a theme-park attraction based on the books' adventures. There's only one problem - AOL Time Warner says no way.
Turns out, those rights are well inside the AOL Time Warner family -- and the folks over there aren't willing to give 'em up.
"AOL Time Warner lawyers are talking to the attorneys at Universal and Disney about the rumor," said a Warner Bros. spokeswoman.
But, it's not meant to be, at least for now. And don't expect Harry Potter to find his way into a theme park of his very own -- such as Potter World -- or to land at Six Flags, which licenses other Warner Bros. characters.
"Right now, we don't care to do anything," a spokeswoman said
That's what I heard as well.
cherrynegra
Well-Known Member
I was actually a little surprised that Disney even considered doing a Land of Arabat. Considering that some of Clive's stuff can be rather intense, though his children's work may not. Didn't think Disney would want to court any type of controversy with Clive.
AndyMagic
Well-Known Member
Sigh. My must people ignore my previous posts. Disneyland and Disney World's Magic Kingdom already have plenty of "non-disney" stuff. Winnie the Pooh is NOT Disney yet I don't think the millions of kids rushing that ride entrance every day seem to mind. Disneyland's Indiana Jones Adventure (one of the best Disney rides EVER) is NOT Disney... it is Paramount. Disney bought the rights for an attraction. HP is no different than IJA. An outside studio, makes a movie and Disney takes it and makes it into an amazing experience. Who better to do this to Harry Potter than Disney. So for the last time... Magic Kingdom ALREADY has stuff that isn't Disney owned so let's not pretend anymore.
imagineer99
New Member
The oddest inclusion of Harry Potter merchandise in all of WDW...
*drumroll please*
You can find the books in the Tower of Terror's gift shop. C'mon people, what genius thought that this fit?
I like Harry Potter (just the books, the movies are absolute garbage and utterly ruin the magic of the written word), if he were to appear in any park let it be MGM. There IS room for expanison!
Keep him away from EPCOT and MK, though.
*drumroll please*
You can find the books in the Tower of Terror's gift shop. C'mon people, what genius thought that this fit?
I like Harry Potter (just the books, the movies are absolute garbage and utterly ruin the magic of the written word), if he were to appear in any park let it be MGM. There IS room for expanison!
Keep him away from EPCOT and MK, though.
The original Pooh is not Disney but the films sure are! ...just like with all the other characters to whose stories Disney has added its own flavor. The Harry Potter movies are beautifully done and well-loved but they are NOT Disney. I don't think the Pooh and Potter comparison is a good one.
TownSquareSteve
New Member
I thought i would weigh in on this discussion. First of all there are 3 problems that WDI had to contend with before anything was/is to replace 20000 Leagues:
1) The lagoon sits directly above the mens and womens dressing room, construction of an underground ride would skyrocket prices because all the locker rooms would have to be moved to another area of the utilidor.
2) The H2O of the lagoon was so full of Diesel gas and other pollutants from the subs, that the water could not just be dumped (per the EPA), the H2O has to first be cleaned and then trucked off property to a hazmat dump site (don't belive me, jump in the lagoon and watch how fast they give you a tetinus shot when you get out, before they arrest you of course
)3) Have you ever taken a sea shell out of the ocean, taken it home, only to realize after a few days that it is starting to smell? Well picture that on a much, much, much larger scale. The one thing WDI was worried about is once they start draining the lagoon the smell will be just nasty around Fantasyland.
I know that was kind of off the subject but i thought I had to clarify some stuff. As far as a HP ride at the MK, I don't think that will happen. Studios really sounds like the likely place. I have nothing against Harry, in fact I really like him and would love to see him partner up with the mouse, bust just not a MK. There have been quotes about other characters "not" being Disney anf MK and at DL, but it becomes a problem when the biggest attractions don't involve classic characters. I don't want my kids to visit MK to visit a HP ride, a LOTR adventure ride and not visit the classic Disney characters. They are who I remember when I first visited the parks and they are who I want my kids to remember when they take their kids. Fantasyland is for "Classic" Disney characters, yeah pooh might not be original Disney, but it has been with the Company so long that no one could picture the 2 apart. Pixar characters are the same way, ask anybody what studio created Buzz and most would say Disney. I love the idea of HP just not at MK. Give him to the studios, where he will have room for a proper E-tix ride. I for one hope to see Bald Mountain emerge from the 20000 leagues lagoon, the villins need their space!!! I said my peace!!!!
~Steve~
imagineer99
New Member
I'm sorry, but I can't agree with this.
The BOOKS are beautifully done. However, the movies are rushed, bland, and poorly created. I will reserve judgement until I see the third movie (which will be directed by someone different), however, in my opinion these movies should NEVER has been created in the first place. In fact, these movies make little sense if you haven't read the books.
Why can't kids use their imagination anymore?
General Grizz
New Member
Actually, the locker area under 20K was already evacuated. :lookaroun
*shrug* Well, I loved the books but I liked the movies too. I thought they were visually appealing and I liked that they followed the books as closely as they did. But, that is a matter of opinion, and I am no film critic. I just like to be entertained.
About kids and their imaginations- I'm not sure where you are going with this but Harry Potter is certainly not the first book to make it to the big screen.
Bill
Account Suspended
Now Lee, you know as well as I, that article is very old. Almost a year now I think.
And if Harry really isn't going in, how come I'm getting E-mails from high ups in WDI about it... something's not right. Perhaps it's not going in 20k, but there is a Potter attraction in WDI somewhere. Someone take a trip out to Glendale and look at the models being worked on... Perhaps it's hidden somewhere, but it's there.
Disney2002
New Member
I totally agree that the only land for Hogwarts in the MK. MGM is very much about the illusion of the movies. Hogwarts calls for more realism which is only possible in MK.
Lee
Adventurer
Yeah, the article is old, but not as old as the quote from the pres of USF that people like to drag out.
Glendale? My guy there doesn't know about it.
Could it be a secret blue-sky concept, being prepared to pitch to WB? Sure.
Is it in active development for WDW? All my signs point to no. Not at the 20K site, anyway.
Another thing that makes me skeptical.
Eisner's head is on the block, right?
Well, he got a deal with the Muppets, remember? What did Disney do? They shouted it from the top of Team Disney. They praised the deal as the biggest thing since Pooh!
Now, maybe it's me, but wouldn't HP be a bigger catch than Kermit? You bet he would.
I can' t help think the PR guys would have alerted the world about any impending Disney/Potter combo.
No way is this a done deal. Not even close.
AndyMagic
Well-Known Member
Well IJA and Potter is really the comparison I was stressing. It is exactly the same situation yet people here don't want to admit it and have so far completely ignored it. I have yet to hear a logical explanation as to why Indiana Jones Adventure works for Disneyland yet Harry Potter doesn't work for WDW's Magic Kingdom.
ToTBellHop
Well-Known Member
Because Indiana Jones comes from LucasFilm, which until Star Tours, had not associated itself with any theme park company. Harry Potter is a Warner Bros. film, and Warner Bros. associated with Six Flags. A Harry Potter ride belongs at any of the domestic Six Flags Parks or any of the three international Warner Bros. Movie World parks. Even if Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone is playing on ABC in early May, I simply don't think a ride belongs in a Disney park, especially the Magic Kingdom. And no one said Indiana Jones Adventure particularly belongs at Disneyland. They had one park and it needed a new ride, so they built it and it blends in well. I'm sure if they had a park like MGM at the time, it would have gone there, but if you only have one park, you don't really have to make a big decision on where to put the ride--in what was a very tired Adventureland (and is now, instead, very cramped). Since when do we use the Disneyland Resort's decisions as representative of wdw's decisions. Look at Disneyland's Tomorrowland, the travesty that it is...and only now are they even beginning to fix it.