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HM rumors DEBUNKED!
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darthjohnny
Active Member
Some do say that the bats might come later down the line, and weren't planned for the reopening this September.
There are not going to be any bats.
The pop up heads aren't original to the ride. They were added during a refurb in the 90's, when the cartoony bride was added to the attic. :wave:
tirian
Well-Known Member
The only rumor that I personally know was considered was the gift shop that was scrapped LONG ago. And even that was more of a thought than a real plan. The Disney villains did almost get a meet-and-greet in the old FastPass distribution area, but that (thankfully) did not happen.
Ermmm... In June, Disney said the wand was not coming down any time soon. Permits were filed in April (but kept secret until recently). Disney said that MGM Studios would never change its name.
tirian
Well-Known Member
CaptainMichael
Well-Known Member
Don't forget that nothing is being built next to the Contemporary...those cranes are a figment of your imagination.
mousermerf
Account Suspended
I moreso prefer to remain skeptical until i hear it from the orange county comptroller.
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
The bats are a bad idea. What if Ozzy were to visit:lookaroun
JimboJones123
Well-Known Member
Everybody get their fill of "I told you so" yet?
raven
Well-Known Member
Exactly! :zipit:
disneygrl89
Member
Now you are getting into solopism which basically says "I am the only thing that exists and every thing else is not real".
(Sorry, for that little college philo. lesson...I couldn't resist!
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JimboJones123
Well-Known Member
Now you are getting into solopism which basically says "I am the only thing that exists and every thing else is not real".
(Sorry, for that little college philo. lesson...I couldn't resist!
Can I also get a real world explination of Phenomenology? Seriously, so an average joe can understand.
(should average joe be Average Joe or average Joe? Since the "JOE" isn't a proper name in this situation, I'm thinking "joe" but if anybody knows for sure, let me know as well. Thanks)
JimboJones123
Well-Known Member
I'm sorry, but I don't believe there was ever any truth to two different versions of the HM. Not a bit. I'm not bashing you, either, by the way... Just the idea that it was ever on the table as a possibility.
And if it ever DID come up as a possibility, there was no way it got far enough for us to hear about it before someone said "wait a tic... we might scare the kids!!!!"
The logistics alone would have basically made it impossible. Don't forget, during its massive re-build in 04-05, Disneyland planned for and built two different versions for their Space Mountain. Even put up a sign that had both versions built into it... But it was quickly figured out that there wasn't any easy way to make it work, and it was completely mothballed with the exception of a couple grad nights. And that was just a coaster. Nothing nearly as involved as the HM.
I also find it curious that this exact same rumor was floated around during Pirates' major refurb. "Scarier at night!" some said. HA! There was even some copy that came out supposedly from Disney that referenced that fact. That turned out to be complete poppycock, and on top of that the person that designed that copy fessed up to it on another Disney fan site. Interesting to me that the same exact rumor came up from those "in the know" about the Mansion.
Those that say they're "in the know", yet suggested two different versions of our Mansion lost a good amount of cred in my eyes when they said that.
And since then, I've seen all KINDS of backpedaling on earlier predictions by a handful as well. Of COURSE they've posted to say "things have changed, they're not doing this or that anymore". What else would they do?
People on here know some HM Butlers, I'm sure. I'd be interested to see what they find if they look on the back of the pop-up heads. The pop-up heads that have the same face on them as 30 years ago. My guess? They'd see the same thing they've always seen for 30 years. :lol:
But just take my post with a grain of salt. :wave:
I like the idea of having alternate versions only for hard ticket events. It will give the park something more to promote. Logistically a switchover would be nighmare during a normal day. But at Hard Ticket events they close parts of the park for crowd control. Plus, if they are doing about 50 of these or so a year (just a guess with the 3 brands they are doing) it could draw more locals to hit these events as well. Also -- add another $5 to the tix price.
Lee
Adventurer
Everything that you see in the Mansion refurb was greenlit a year ago. Nothing was cut during the refurb.
The gift shop was discussed, but never made the final plan.
On-ride photo....I heard it mentioned way back, but don't know what ever became of it. Seemed like a good idea to me, but could have been cut when they decided against the shop. Need someplace to sell them...
As for the "scarier at night"...I don't know. I did hear talk of putting that capability in, but for use on special occasions (MNSSHP, etc.), not as a nightly thing. Honestly I don't know if the new props are in there or not...I'll ask around.
The gargoyles thing was purely someone's misunderstanding.
The gift shop was discussed, but never made the final plan.
On-ride photo....I heard it mentioned way back, but don't know what ever became of it. Seemed like a good idea to me, but could have been cut when they decided against the shop. Need someplace to sell them...
As for the "scarier at night"...I don't know. I did hear talk of putting that capability in, but for use on special occasions (MNSSHP, etc.), not as a nightly thing. Honestly I don't know if the new props are in there or not...I'll ask around.
The gargoyles thing was purely someone's misunderstanding.
Nah...that was just a carryover rumor from the DL refurb when they were actually considering the "Pirates of the Scare-ibbean" concept. Never made it off the boards at DL...never did at WDW either. Cool rumor though, based in at least a pinch of fact.
Just some info the maybe clarify a few points that have been raised in this thread.
This comes directly from people involved in the project, who really do know what they are talking about!
- there were no plans to ever have a day and night version.
- there are no backs to the popup heads with different faces...any of them.
- the popup heads are the exact same heads that were there before the rehab. They were not even touched.
This comes directly from people involved in the project, who really do know what they are talking about!
- there were no plans to ever have a day and night version.
- there are no backs to the popup heads with different faces...any of them.
- the popup heads are the exact same heads that were there before the rehab. They were not even touched.
bhg469
Well-Known Member
Dude did you lose sleep over this?
Buried20KLeague
Well-Known Member
Touche'. :lol:
What I SHOULD have said was when the original molds were made for the pop-up heads. My point was that they haven't changed the heads at all since the original molds.
disneygrl89
Member
Sorry, but in my philospophy 101 class we have yet to talk about phenomenology in the four weeks or so of school.
But...I did a little surfing and I think this is the easiest explanation for an "average joe" (dictionary.com says so), phenomenology is "a study of human experience in which the considerations of an objective reality--or how things really are--are not taken into account."
Or the principle in phenomenology is "knowledge is discovered through open, unbiased description of experience, without any attribution of cause or other explanation"
JimboJones123
Well-Known Member
So in other words, in nature of being human, this knowledge doesn't exist. Sounds pointless. Sorry, minored in Phil and skipped that class.