HKDL gets new castle, frozen land and marvel land.

X-filed

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That’s called opinion.

Cancellation was due to the usual internal politics, too many cooks, and cost.

If the theme was unpopular the US versions would have been reskinned. If Rise was unreliable it wouldn’t consistently be exceeding its THRC. But this is the Hong Kong thread.
If it were really for cost reasons, they would not have gone so far as to elaborate the permits and take the necessary steps for its construction, especially if it was to allocate those funds to a 15-minute E-ticket ride that would cost as much, if not more. Although the attraction is better managed today, this was not the case when the decision was made. I would also add, to close the debate, that the characters are obviously not popular and do not represent what a fan expects from a Star Wars experience when visiting the park at the end of the 2020s or early 2030s. It is now the characters from The Mandalorian and the legacy characters of George Lucas and Filoni that are appreciated and expected in a Disney park.
 

X-filed

Member
You’re getting opinion mixed up with fact again. I prefer the legacy characters too, but both GEs are doing well as they are. Ultimate proof of your claim would be a reskin of the US lands.
Besides the need to amortize the phenomenal cost of $2 billion for these two lands, they currently offer almost exclusively merchandise and character meet-and-greets inspired by the Mandoverse or the two original sagas. It wouldn't surprise me if, in a few years, the attractions themselves are updated. However, it is impossible to completely reskin the Rise of the Resistance attraction because each spacecraft, the destroyer hangar, the actors, the design of the stormtroopers, and the other animatronics and audio-visual effects would all need to be redone to fit another period of the Star Wars saga, which simply wouldn't be worth it.
It was a cost based decision. That’s from Glendale, where the decision was made.
You're getting opinion mixed up with fact again.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
You're getting opinion mixed up with fact again.
Not me. My track record should speak for itself. I hate saying that.

I’m not one to say you should believe me and nothing else. I write things as I know them and don’t really care if I’m believed or not. Never have done, never will. I’ll leave it at that.

Like I said this is the wrong forum for this.
 
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IMDREW

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Does anyone know how long the outside refurb of Mystic Manor will take? Will be there first week of september and would hate to see it boxed up.
 

Aramar

Active Member
I don't want to derail the thread, but do you think that HKDL could replace the River View Cafe restaurant with a ride in the future? That restaurant seems to be always closed when I check the app and there's a bit more than 2500 sq meters in that area. Adventureland needs more attractions and I could see a classic dark ride there (themed to Moana, Jungle Book, Lilo & Stitch, Peter Pan, Aladdin, Encanto...).

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marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
I don't want to derail the thread, but do you think that HKDL could replace the River View Cafe restaurant with a ride in the future? That restaurant seems to be always closed when I check the app and there's a bit more than 2500 sq meters in that area. Adventureland needs more attractions and I could see a classic dark ride there (themed to Moana, Jungle Book, Lilo & Stitch, Peter Pan, Aladdin, Encanto...).

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It did a sensational dinner show during Halloween season last year.
 

Supersnow84

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I don't want to derail the thread, but do you think that HKDL could replace the River View Cafe restaurant with a ride in the future? That restaurant seems to be always closed when I check the app and there's a bit more than 2500 sq meters in that area. Adventureland needs more attractions and I could see a classic dark ride there (themed to Moana, Jungle Book, Lilo & Stitch, Peter Pan, Aladdin, Encanto...).

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It’s listed as an “expansion pad” so there is a chance there, HK has too many restaurants as it is (Clopins is another one that’s always closed but it doesn’t have a lot of space)

They said they were doing a reimagining alongside the avengers e ticket, there is a chance they decide to turn a restaurant or a show into a ride but there is also the consideration that HK kinda doesn’t need many more c tickets
 

Aramar

Active Member
It’s listed as an “expansion pad” so there is a chance there, HK has too many restaurants as it is (Clopins is another one that’s always closed but it doesn’t have a lot of space)
According to the app, Clopin's restaurant is open many days now. Maybe with Frozen Fantasyland has become more popular.
 

Supersnow84

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Do you reckon D23 will give us anything besides the marvel attraction and the reimagining

The park has been coasting on this current expansion since what……..2016, do you think they will wait it out or announce more beyond that with the parks momentum
 

Gusey

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I think it'll probably be Marvel and maybe the Re-imagineering (I've got a feeling that they're going to announce Space Mountain updates for Tokyo, Hong Kong and Paris). The only other announcement that could happen for Hong Kong is the 20th anniversary parade
 

BrianLo

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I think just the Marvel attraction for the major ticket item and that’s a ok. HK has the best build cycle out of all. Ya it helps it’s just one gate, but the cadence even with a pandemic delay has been great.
 

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
Give me the Marvel E, a dark ride in Fantasyland and a piratey flume ride and I’ll happily go back.

Or maybe we are already 😁

Plenty of space for both adjacent to Frozen and Grizzly Gulch. But they can take their gradual time IMO. It’s a great park as is.

Though they can pick a different subject matter for the flume. Differentiation from Shanghai generally works to their favour.
 

Supersnow84

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Someone posted a picture at D23 that (honestly may be the same as last year) the e ticket ride vehicles look similar to Peter Pan at fantasy springs and/or the Spider-Man ride at IOA

definitely seems like a super good filler ride to round out the north side of the park but I’m not sure it’ll be able to take park headliner away from mystic manor (and unless the reimagining is a space upgrade on the level of de la Terre a la lune I doubt it’ll be it either)

I’m not expecting it but I’m sorta hopeful they go all out and give the park one more big e ticket (the grizzly gulch log flume is always a popular suggestion). A revamped space, marvel Peter Pan and a big e ticket log flume would truly make it a full 2 day park considering the quality of its entertainment relative to its size
 

Gusey

Well-Known Member
Someone posted a picture at D23 that (honestly may be the same as last year) the e ticket ride vehicles look similar to Peter Pan at fantasy springs and/or the Spider-Man ride at IOA

definitely seems like a super good filler ride to round out the north side of the park but I’m not sure it’ll be able to take park headliner away from mystic manor (and unless the reimagining is a space upgrade on the level of de la Terre a la lune I doubt it’ll be it either)

I’m not expecting it but I’m sorta hopeful they go all out and give the park one more big e ticket (the grizzly gulch log flume is always a popular suggestion). A revamped space, marvel Peter Pan and a big e ticket log flume would truly make it a full 2 day park considering the quality of its entertainment relative to its size
It seems that any info about the attraction at the Imagineering booth only refers to DCA. Any chance it could be a different attraction for Hong Kong?
 

Supersnow84

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It seems that any info about the attraction at the Imagineering booth only refers to DCA. Any chance it could be a different attraction for Hong Kong?

It’s difficult to know. As per the information we have HK is already getting the ball rolling (if that means hiring, drawing up plans or actually moving dirt we don’t really know) and DCA is still in development hell.

I feel like if HK was further along then there should be some information about it at D23 than DCA not less
 

Gusey

Well-Known Member
It’s difficult to know. As per the information we have HK is already getting the ball rolling (if that means hiring, drawing up plans or actually moving dirt we don’t really know) and DCA is still in development hell.

I feel like if HK was further along then there should be some information about it at D23 than DCA not less
Yeah, any photos of seen of the booth just says Avengers Attraction, doesn't actually say which park. But the media event going on seems to suggest it is for DCA, or else they would have confirmed for Hong Kong
 

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