HKDL gets new castle, frozen land and marvel land.

Supersnow84

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Yes. That’s the shape of the proposed attraction. Wedge shaped.
Yeah there is another plot on the other side of autopia
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Red is the quinjet plot but there is also the yellow plot
 

ParkPeeker

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the full animatronics really improved everything, they could be fully and properly lit now

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Also, anyone know what the heck this is (from the official Disney parks pic)? It looks like a projection of Elsa, but I don't understand why there would be one in this scene. Is this perhaps part of a previous/connecting scene?
 

Supersnow84

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I think it remains to be seen how they use the extra space, FEA in EPCOT’s problem has always been that in 90% of it there is nothing going on in 60% of the room and the scenes that were there weren’t exactly groundbreaking

HK kinda needs this to be a hit so hopefully they put as much effort in as mystic manor
 

momo123

Member
Does a larger FEA mean a better ride? could it not just be because they're increasing capacity so storage or some other technical reasoning behind the larger building?
 

Supersnow84

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Does a larger FEA mean a better ride? could it not just be because they're increasing capacity so storage or some other technical reasoning behind the larger building?
I would say large show scenes are definitely an improvement, the EPCOT ones feels claustrophobic

If it’s bigger capacity that’s nice but it’s not like HK needs it
 

momo123

Member
Yeap I think time drain isn't actually a bad thing in a theme park (btw I watched a recent video review of HKDL and saw that the lines seemed a lot longer) is this because the parks a lot busier or is this a side effect of the closed for two days a week ? I wonder or was that a just a one off (my last experience In the park I did everything except orbitron which had a ridiculous 45min wait towards the end of the day) I found my biggest time drain was TSL think I spend 2.5 hrs there almost all of it waiting.
 

Supersnow84

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Yeap I think time drain isn't actually a bad thing in a theme park (btw I watched a recent video review of HKDL and saw that the lines seemed a lot longer) is this because the parks a lot busier or is this a side effect of the closed for two days a week ? I wonder or was that a just a one off (my last experience In the park I did everything except orbitron which had a ridiculous 45min wait towards the end of the day) I found my biggest time drain was TSL think I spend 2.5 hrs there almost all of it waiting.
For a Disney park 45 minutes for most things really isn’t that much, it shows strong consistency of the park (but might be caused by the park being closed 2 days)

Shanghai has almost the same number of attractions and it’s headliners regularly hit 2 hours at a minimum so yeah long lines caused by low capacity might actually make the park feel fuller
 

Supersnow84

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every time I see arendelle it looks amazing and I keep thinking “will this actually help HK”

I know this website tends to lean towards HK being a lot better than it’s reputation but will this actually fix its reputation, the park still only has 3 e tickets and the castle is rather divisive

This will bring its ride count to 16 rides and 3 shows, is this enough, does this even put the park into full day category for most, the lack of a DTD is still hurting here
 

Rush

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every time I see arendelle it looks amazing and I keep thinking “will this actually help HK”

I know this website tends to lean towards HK being a lot better than it’s reputation but will this actually fix its reputation, the park still only has 3 e tickets and the castle is rather divisive

This will bring its ride count to 16 rides and 3 shows, is this enough, does this even put the park into full day category for most, the lack of a DTD is still hurting here
HKDL is already a beyond solid full day park. Beyond it's ride offerings, it has some of the best shows in a Disney park, a good amount of focus on character M&G's and seasonal events that will keep guests coming back. The only points it urgently needs to improve on is day time parades. Other than that, I think the park's ride line-up will hold up well for at least when the time comes for the Marvel E-Ticket to debut.
 

Supersnow84

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HKDL is already a beyond solid full day park. Beyond it's ride offerings, it has some of the best shows in a Disney park, a good amount of focus on character M&G's and seasonal events that will keep guests coming back. The only points it urgently needs to improve on is day time parades. Other than that, I think the park's ride line-up will hold up well for at least when the time comes for the Marvel E-Ticket to debut.
That’s my opinion but it’s general perception doesn’t seem to match that, people always seem to deride its size and depths of offerings with a lot of people saying things like “yeah I ran out of things to do waiting for momentous” when the park already has the smallest opening hours

Maybe it’s the lack of lines that causes people to blow through rides quickly but Shanghai seems to get away with the same lack of depth because you spend 90% or your time there in lines, not saying that makes the guest experience better but there seems to be a perception factor (and Shanghai gets away with this despite having shallower non rise options than HK)
 
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Mark_E

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I think you’re right. There seems to be less to do because you don’t wait in as long for the rides. If you were waiting an hour for Mystic, Space, Iron Man and Grizzly rather than being able to be on all with less than a 20 minute wait, you’d have less spare time.

At Shanghai, you will almost certainly wait 1.5 hrs MINIMUM for Soarin and SD Mine Train, an hour minimum for Tron and Rapids, and over 30 for pretty much everything else, even on the quietest of days.
 

Supersnow84

Well-Known Member
I think you’re right. There seems to be less to do because you don’t wait in as long for the rides. If you were waiting an hour for Mystic, Space, Iron Man and Grizzly rather than being able to be on all with less than a 20 minute wait, you’d have less spare time.

At Shanghai, you will almost certainly wait 1.5 hrs MINIMUM for Soarin and SD Mine Train, an hour minimum for Tron and Rapids, and over 30 for pretty much everything else, even on the quietest of days.
The question then becomes how do you fix that problem, HK is essentially suffering from having a better guest experience than Shanghai

At 20 minutes for your average ride of the 12 parks only really the 4 old magic kingdoms are dense enough to still be considered “full parks”, even TDS would kinda fall over with these low numbers

It will take a lot of investment that the park can’t justify with its numbers (and the fact it can’t draw funding from the mainland Chinese government) to make its offerings dense enough to feel full with 20 minute queues but in its current form the circle of

Park feels empty -> park isn’t full day and is bad -> park stays empty

Is a self fulfilling cycle that it’s stuck in an Shanghai jumped straight over by being “good enough” at opening
 

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