And gravy....They probably consume large quantities of turkey legs too.
And gravy....They probably consume large quantities of turkey legs too.
That's insulting.And gravy....
Happy New Year....That's insulting.
hang on, are you really implying that only rude people are from overseas or out of the USA?This thread has been derailed. Can we please get back to discussing the fact that WDW guests not visiting from the United States of America are horrible, disgusting, rude people?
hang on, are you really implying that only rude people are from overseas or out of the USA?
What bit do you want to know?This thread has been derailed. Can we please get back to discussing the fact that WDW guests not visiting from the United States of America are horrible, disgusting, rude people?
Yes... because that's exactly how Walt felt when he said he wanted to create a place where kids could have fun and their parents could right along with them... scheduling days where the parks (based largely on Rated-G children's classics) are closed to children.I love disney!! However, I do believe disney needs to have a day with NO KIDS! Oh my gosh...the crying, whining, screaming that these kids do late at night is ridiculous.
That goes beyond just being rude to folks around you... that is a child welfare problem!We weren't mistreated per se but in 2012 when we were at the Parade and Fireworks at MK, this lady with her 3 kids, had her youngest peed her pants but she wouldn't change her because she would lose her spot so we sat there for an hour waiting and then another hour for the show smelling this kid's urine all over her pants because mommy did not want to take her to go get cleaned up.
We weren't mistreated per se but in 2012 when we were at the Parade and Fireworks at MK, this lady with her 3 kids, had her youngest peed her pants but she wouldn't change her because she would lose her spot so we sat there for an hour waiting and then another hour for the show smelling this kid's urine all over her pants because mommy did not want to take her to go get cleaned up.
That goes beyond just being rude to folks around you... that is a child welfare problem!
I have a lot of experience myself working with kids with autism and other special needs. I also have a lot of experience being a parent, and observing meltdowns from non-autistic kids and adults at the parks. But I don't pretend to be smart enough to know from casual observation who belongs at the parks and who doesn't, and who's a good or a bad parent. Making those sorts of judgments reflects a combination of arrogance and ignorance, especially if you've never been a parent yourself.Not to play devils advocate... but could you not also make that argument for children on the autism spectrum.
My wife holds a BA and Masters in special education specializing with autistic children and she does a lot of work with local organizations in creating IEP's and such and she's often appalled how many parents bring their children to Disney who really shouldn't be there.
The combination of sounds, colors, the weather, and the general environmental experience leads to some serious break down amongst special needs children. Makes you think why parents put their kids through that.
No offense to your wife, I have a lot of admiration and respect for anyone who works with special needs children, but what's on an IEP and what's on their reports isn't correct as to every aspect of that child's personality or if they will be able to handle a park. Heck, sometimes the reports aren't even right as to their level of academic achievement. Parents know their children individually best, and they can determine whether or not their child can handle WDW. My younger brother has autism and does great with WDW and DL (we didn't even need GAC/DAC until 2013), as have some of his classmates. Others may not be able to handle it. It depends on the child, and personally, I am not going to judge any parent who takes their child to WDW. Parents who fail to discipline their child? That's a different story, autism or not.Not to play devils advocate... but could you not also make that argument for children on the autism spectrum.
My wife holds a BA and Masters in special education specializing with autistic children and she does a lot of work with local organizations in creating IEP's and such and she's often appalled how many parents bring their children to Disney who really shouldn't be there.
The combination of sounds, colors, the weather, and the general environmental experience leads to some serious break down amongst special needs children. Makes you think why parents put their kids through that.
I've seen some spirited discussions about paradr/firework viewing...
I like your attitude Thomas. I've gotten to a point in my life where I am just not going to take any crap from anyone, unless their bigger than me.I'll see your viewing spot and raise you a photo op spot... the classic place right in front of the entrance. Some idiot and his wife start becoming very belligerent because they thought we were in the frame of their photo... I finally had to explain that if he didn't simply leave I would be more than happy to beat the *(&^ out of him.
What bit do you want to know?
I love disney!! However, I do believe disney needs to have a day with NO KIDS! Oh my gosh...the crying, whining, screaming that these kids do late at night is ridiculous. Young children should not be out at midnight. These parents are selfish! Disney has certain days set aside for gays, star wars etc...so why not one day out of the year for adults only....or at least have a specific time where children must leave the park. Let the adults enjoy the park with no children and no damn strollers! And how about the bus situation. It disgusts me when parents let the young children take up the seats while older adults must stand. What the hell is wrong with these parents of today? I'm glad I grew up in the days of respect and honor of older people. Today, parents have the children on pedestals. Being at disney during the holidays is frustrating enough without bawling exhausted kids that have no respect. It's sad that the only thing I bring home from the happiest place on earth, is to be rude like the foreigners and despise children...and the damn strollers!! It's mind boggling!
i wont to no why u people come to are parks, and why u stink so bad, an d why u breng kids....and why ur so rood n cut me n line!!!!11!
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